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We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by AlecSchueler »

bandyaboot wrote: post #106
AlecSchueler wrote: post #40

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No one implied they would, but the thread you're commenting on literally begins with an abstract discussion about using the law to coerce you into having a more "positive" birth rate.

So what is it that you’re saying is keeping younger people from getting out? Just the knowledge that there may be people out in the world with them who are creepily obsessing over their birth rate?

Apathy resulting from being treated and talked about like cattle, raised and bred to feed the machine of capitalism while they watch it destroy the world around them.

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Post by galangalalgol »

CooCooCaCha wrote: post #160
Workaccount2 wrote: post #150

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Losing weight is done in the kitchen, not the gym. In fact exercise makes you crazy hungry, which sabotages tons of people's weight loss efforts. It's better to lose weight, learn how your body and calories work, and then start implementing gym work.

I’ve actually found running decreases my appetite.

While you are running or just in general? The former makes sense, but the latter is weird. Telling an obese person to run also makes orthopedic doctors cringe. Swimming or strength training are a lot safer for their joints. I personally find regular running makes me super hungry for anything and everything. Making sure what is at hand is healthy is critical for me.

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Post by bluecalm »

Swizec wrote: post #120
anovikov wrote: post #108

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> For years, i tried to lose weight with gym and dieting. I failed, and now i know i probably never had a chance to, it was a scam all along. > lost all weight i wanted with Wegovy It’s not a scam. The trick is that you probably weren’t dieting aggressively enough before Wegovy. All diets and GLP inhibitors work on the same principle: Caloric restriction. It is simply impossible to stay fat without eating enough calo…

Idk man, I find it pretty easy to eat any amount of calories. I actually gained weight when burning around 1500kcal/day on a bike during one month - way more than running 10mi/day would burn. That you find it difficult to eat enough during marathon training means your body is at least decent at regulating itself. For some people it's very easy (my gf stays at her very lean weight even when injured and doing 0 sports and then still stays there when burning 1000kcal/day) while for some it's very hard without help (my experience above).

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Post by throwaway22032 »

These editorials all have a common fault which is that they fail the sniff test of “would you actually do this”. I don’t know if you would call it classism, or an attempt at manipulation, or what, it’s just weird.

It’s like - okay, I’ll have a wife and kids, go fishing with the boys, a house with a garden, a car, will fly on holidays etc, but “we” (real meaning: you) should use all of these weird technological bad substitutes.

The literal embodiment of the “eat bugs and be happy” meme.

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Post by bluecalm »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #145
anovikov wrote: post #108

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Your body is a machine that burns calories. Give it less calories and it will burn its calorie stores. You are right that there are a lot of scams that complicate this fact as much as possible to get money from you. But rest assured, if you calculate your TDEE (many simple calcs online), and food scale your calories ( everything you eat) to a diet -500 under your TDEE, you will lose weight (or you are a perpetual mot…

Yeah but it's meaningless. The struggle with losing weight comes from difficult to overcome hunger pangs.

Advising people about calorie restriction is the same as advising an alcoholic to just stop drinking. It's easy if you can do it but if you can you wouldn't have a problem to begin with. It is missing the problem entirely.

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Post by AaronAPU »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #184
xtracto wrote: post #164

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I'm a 44 yo Xenial, not too old, not young. That is, I'm part of the "walkman generation" . It surprises me how people are less and less open to socialize, to the point that some even see you with disgust if you DARE to interrupt them from.their mobile phone trance. Society nowadays is pretty ugly. Younger generations seem very isolationist to me.

Same gen (42). I feel like we have a really unique lens on all of this, too: old enough to remember being in a smoky bar, socializing (not healthy, but fun as hell), but also young enough to have had some technological exposure at a crucial time of our youth. We _leveraged_ technology for socializing in person. Our online pursuits were around organizing lighthearted social goofiness like "getting iced", LARPing, and…

43, and I agree as well.

I notice when just out and about other people my age and older still have the familiar vibe. Young people are in another universe and it doesn’t seem like a more pleasant one.

There are exceptions though of course

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Post by SoftTalker »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #223
soulofmischief wrote: post #203

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In my state is the federal minimum of $7.25/hr. You're looking at two hours of work for one cocktail. And my state is addicted to alcohol. The overwhelming majority of people I know in this state won't even meet up with you if there's not a beer waiting for them. People work all week and then spend half their paycheck in one night, then rinse, wash, repeat. I consider the state of affairs here to be nothing short of…

This idea of pretending that your only option is $15 cocktails really makes this argument look lame. Not to mention that the federal minimum wage is basically irrelevant in most places - where I live starting entry level pay at McDonald's is $17/hr. Cocktails were expensive when I was young, too. We just hardly ever drank them. We went to the liquor store and bought the cheapest shit we could that probably had a 50/5…

I worked at McDonald's in the 1980s. Started at $3.25/hr never made more than about $5/hr before I moved on. Cocktails at a bar were about the same price relative to that as they are now. We drank the cheapest swill beer they had on draft. It was about being there with your friends, not drinking some froo-froo cocktails.

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Post by saulpw »

ido wrote: post #207
profsummergig wrote: post #177

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An undiagnosed alcoholic (IMHO) I used to know, would happily spend 6 hours any evening, drinking with anyone, gossiping about completely useless things. They could be doing this with complete strangers whom they would never meet again, they could even be doing this with someone visiting to let them know that they were going to sue them (actually happened at least once). They thought they were very "social". Yeah, if…

Aside from the drinking, what is wrong with the social activity you just mentioned? Or was your point that they only used it as an excuse to drink? Cause it would have surely been easier & cheaper to just drink at home on their own.

It's hollow and doesn't lead to any kind of friendship or bond. You might as well walk around blazed out of your mind and saying hello to everyone you pass on the street. It feels friendly but no connections are made.

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Post by RamblingCTO »

empressplay wrote: post #128
RamblingCTO wrote: post #95

But it's not gonna solve loneliness. Machines can't replace human contact. It can be a weak substitute like doom scrolling or media consumption is for feeling your own feelings, but it's not gonna replace human contact in all it's entirety and is a bad solution to an important problem. Are people who think and write this so alienated from their own race that they don't know what that all entails? The hormones, the co…

Not to be grim, but many of us will die listening to someone comfort us over a phone. That will have none of the 'connection' you mention aside from a compassionate voice. And, if you are one of those unfortunate people, that voice will be enough. It will have to be.

I don't think so. We will most proably die alone and that's ok. That's a moment that needn't be shared. Life must be though.
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