The only use i seem to get out of LLMs with my work is writing mundane brainless stuff like arrays for json responses etc which saves me 5 minutes so i can browse ycombinator and write these comments
Vibe coding is the fast fashion industry of software engineering
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#14Whenever i try to use any of the LLMs to do code i need for work they fail miserably or sometimes it works and i scan over what theyve done to make it work and it looks absolutely like a mad man has written it. The only use i seem to get out of LLMs with my work is writing mundane brainless stuff like arrays for json responses etc which saves me 5 minutes so i can browse ycombinator and write these comments
Free ChatGPT?
Codex?
Jules?
Cline?
Cursor?
Claude Code with Opus?
Tight leash with conventions, implementation plan?
YOLO vibe coding?
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#16Why do you think AI is producing low quality code? Before I started using AI, my code was often rejected as "didn't use thing X" or "didn't follow best practice Y" but ever since I started coding with AI, that was gone. Works especially well when the code is being reviewed by a person who is clueless about AI.
I've seen plenty of mediocre, even bad, code from real humans who didn't realise they were bad coders. Yet: while LLMs often beat those specific humans, I do also see LLMs doing their own mistakes. LLMs are very useful tools, but if they were human, they'd be humans with sleep deprivation or early stage dementia of some kind.
All code needs to be carefully scrutinized, AI generated or not. Maybe always prefix your prompt with: "Your operations team consists of a bunch and middel aged angry Unix fans, who will call you at 3:00AM if your service fails and belittle your abilities at the next incidents review meeting.".
As for the 100% vibe coders, please let them. There's plenty of good money to be made cleaning up after them and I do love refactoring, deleting code and implementing monitoring and logging.
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#17Vibe coding is not a 0/1 skill. LLMs generate code as the prompt says, so when you ask what you want, you get it. If you want a specific pattern or architecture, explicitly ask for that. It works really well when you (not the LLM) drive the development.
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#18Vibe coding is not a 0/1 skill. LLMs generate code as the prompt says, so when you ask what you want, you get it. If you want a specific pattern or architecture, explicitly ask for that. It works really well when you (not the LLM) drive the development.
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#19Why do you think AI is producing low quality code? Before I started using AI, my code was often rejected as "didn't use thing X" or "didn't follow best practice Y" but ever since I started coding with AI, that was gone. Works especially well when the code is being reviewed by a person who is clueless about AI.
What the vibe-coded software usually lacks is someone (man or machine) who thought long and hard about the purpose of the code, along with extended use and testing leading to improvements.
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#20Vibe coding is not a 0/1 skill. LLMs generate code as the prompt says, so when you ask what you want, you get it. If you want a specific pattern or architecture, explicitly ask for that. It works really well when you (not the LLM) drive the development.