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Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by chedabob »

kassner wrote: post #231

What does “OS” in the name stands for? My first thought was “Operating System”, but that doesn’t make sense when what they are providing is a server via a docker container. No one says they installed the Elastic OS… Ubiquiti themselves call it “software package”: > Self‑hosted software package that delivers UniFi Network [1] My second thought was “Open Source”, but the absence of comments complaining about the licens…

They've borrowed the name from the CloudKey/Dream Machine to make it clear that this will have parity, instead of what we had previously where you could only run some of the apps in isolation that would normally be bundled in the full system image for the CloudKey.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

psyclobe wrote: post #131

I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

I have nothing but bad things to say about my shitty UDM from Ubiquiti.

It has issues with 2.4Ghz speeds, it randomly restarts because their software is buggy as hell. Their Apple style UI sucks ass and they have a mobile app that you can barely do anything in so you may as well just go to the web interface.

They have no features like proper QoS (smart queueing does NOT count) and even just little things, like not being able to search clients by IP, or ordering by current speed never working quite properly.

It's a fancy UI over crappy code that's been duct taped together. As soon as I move house I'm moving to Mikrotik again. For APs I may keep unifi, as they're very good at that one thing, but their routers/switches suck imo.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by fennecfoxy »

chrisandchris wrote: post #236
stephen_g wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

What do you use the for routing? I tried a Mikrotik router recently but conoared to the Ubi devices, configuration feels so clunky and complicated.

RouterOS does feel a little clunky for sure, but you can configure _everything_. And once it's set up, it works beautifully and consistently.

Ubiquiti's routers to me just seem to be prosumer routers with an "enterprise" UI on top. Whereas Mikrotik genuinely offer an enterprise experience (also still great for home) with the boring, drab, absurdly functional UI to back it up.

Ubiquiti looks beautiful; but you can't do anything with it.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by fennecfoxy »

dmoy wrote: post #188
windexh8er wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is 100a% wrong from my perspective. I host multiple sites using UniFi, old Router/SwitchOS as well as AirOS/UISP. I have many VLANs under management spanning these different variations of "old" and "new" implementations and none of them are "a miserable place to be". Maybe if one doesn't actually understand networking nomenclature or interop, sure. I happen to have a pretty deep networking background - but Ubiqu…

> There's no better prosumer option - good, bad or otherwise Mikrotik maybe? I run both ubiquiti and mikrotik stuff. The mikrotik definitely has... a learning curve, but you can do some stuff with it that's pretty difficult with ubiquiti.

I think the Mikrotik learning curve is very fair for the level of complexity of what you're trying to do with it. It's like 1:1 time to configure:how weird the thing you're trying to do is.

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Post by gertrunde »

psyclobe wrote: post #131

I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

Like others have said, the edgerouter issues have left a somewhat bad taste in the mouth, it felt like the product line was being ignored and abandoned for a long time.

And Ubiquiti seemed to get impacted more than other similar companies by supply chain problems that came following covid, but they do seem to have picked up again noticeably over the last 18-24 months, with lots of new product releases.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by gertrunde »

chamakits wrote: post #250
stephen_g wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

Any recommendations on cameras that can be fully local?

Most people I know in a similar situation went with generic ip cameras paired with a synology nas for an inexpensive option.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by gertrunde »

chrisandchris wrote: post #236
stephen_g wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

What do you use the for routing? I tried a Mikrotik router recently but conoared to the Ubi devices, configuration feels so clunky and complicated.

Agreed, Mikrotik's configuration is sufficiently different from just about anything else that it takes some significant getting used to.

Admittedly it's still not as awkward/bad as Draytek.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by LtdJorge »

fennecfoxy wrote: post #253
chrisandchris wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use the for routing? I tried a Mikrotik router recently but conoared to the Ubi devices, configuration feels so clunky and complicated.

RouterOS does feel a little clunky for sure, but you can configure _everything_. And once it's set up, it works beautifully and consistently. Ubiquiti's routers to me just seem to be prosumer routers with an "enterprise" UI on top. Whereas Mikrotik genuinely offer an enterprise experience (also still great for home) with the boring, drab, absurdly functional UI to back it up. Ubiquiti looks beautiful; but you can't d…

Mikrotik is like Linux and Ubiquiti is like Mac

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by Hamuko »

madduci wrote: post #243
stephen_g wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

I moved the firmware if my EdgeRouter X SFP to OpenWRT, since it has been years from their last security update and recently the WebUI tripped and broke. The router works still amazingly fine, only their software has some bugs.

My EdgeRouter X just mysteriously died once when I had to reboot it. No idea what happened to it but it just never was accessible through any means.

Hopefully the Unifi devices are better since I eventually replaced it with Cloud Gateway Ultra after dabbling with a second-hand MikroTik.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by tallanvor »

psyclobe wrote: post #131

I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

Ubiquiti is honestly excellent when it works. When something goes wrong, though, their support really falls flat, as I experienced just this weekend when my Dream Wall died early on a Sunday morning. I'm still working with a makeshift network waiting for a replacement.
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