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Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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What does “OS” in the name stands for? My first thought was “Operating System”, but that doesn’t make sense when what they are providing is a server via a docker container. No one says they installed the Elastic OS…

Ubiquiti themselves call it “software package”:

> Self‑hosted software package that delivers UniFi Network [1]

My second thought was “Open Source”, but the absence of comments complaining about the license make me believe it isn’t this.

Any guesses?

1: https://blog.ui.com/article/introducing-unifi-os-server

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

They just released v3.0.0 of the EdgeRouter software three days ago. https://community.ui.com/releases/EdgeRouter-3-0-0/33ee3852-... But yeah they haven't released any new hardware in quite a long time. But nice to see they are still doing development work on the software.

Thank you so much for this great news!

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

> Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab IN all fairness, that hate is reasonable. Ubiquity has _some_ things done super well. As long as your needs are addressed by the config/options/UX/API that they expose, you'll have a pretty good experience. As soon as you need to do something that isn't easy, you're going to be fighting your core network infra the entire time and that'…

The thing about the UniFi platform is it iteratively improves. Years ago you couldn’t manage NAT rules or DNS from the GUI, though there were workarounds to modify iptables at the command line and preserve customization across upgrades.

Now days, static routes, SNAT/DNAT, and DNS are all in the management interface. So.. things improve, and every time I’m back using EdgeRouters, Extreme, or Juniper elements I miss the low friction of managing UniFi stacks.

Agreed that if you need VRFs for example, DC power, and are working through similar complexity requirements, Ubiquiti is the wrong stack. I’d say Ubiquiti is not heavy weight, but it seems to address 90% of SMB setups.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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> Next, we need to log in with our Ubiquiti account. Right. They don't learn. > You can also proceed without an Ubiquiti account Can you? Or you have to make one and only then maybe possibly to some extent run the thing without one?

You really don't need a Ubiquiti account. They of course make it the default, but you can check a "local user only" box and then just create a local user with a username and password. I really appreciate this about them. You don't need internet to set it up.

Good. Did they fix their APs too or those can't be initialized without an account still?

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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What does “OS” in the name stands for? My first thought was “Operating System”, but that doesn’t make sense when what they are providing is a server via a docker container. No one says they installed the Elastic OS… Ubiquiti themselves call it “software package”: > Self‑hosted software package that delivers UniFi Network [1] My second thought was “Open Source”, but the absence of comments complaining about the licens…

My guess actually is "Operating System", because this piece of software is required* for operating all your UniFi devices (central management).

* Required if not each should be a standalone, some devices won't work without UniFi OS AFAIK.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

What do you use the for routing?

I tried a Mikrotik router recently but conoared to the Ubi devices, configuration feels so clunky and complicated.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

#237

I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

For cameras, everyone should be looking into https://openipc.org/

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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> Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab IN all fairness, that hate is reasonable. Ubiquity has _some_ things done super well. As long as your needs are addressed by the config/options/UX/API that they expose, you'll have a pretty good experience. As soon as you need to do something that isn't easy, you're going to be fighting your core network infra the entire time and that'…

This is 100a% wrong from my perspective. I host multiple sites using UniFi, old Router/SwitchOS as well as AirOS/UISP. I have many VLANs under management spanning these different variations of "old" and "new" implementations and none of them are "a miserable place to be". Maybe if one doesn't actually understand networking nomenclature or interop, sure. I happen to have a pretty deep networking background - but Ubiqu…

Like the other commenter said, VLANs are table stakes.

Try making a multi-homed IPv6 network with Ubiquiti gear. Easy (I might even say trivial) to do with an OpenBSD router and PF, but impossible with Ubiquiti because of how they broke the DHCPv6 client so that it can't accept leases from multiple interfaces and assign them to `radvd` for SLAAC.

You want to do anything other than the most basic task of advertising a single prefix from your ISP? Like advertise the same ULA on multiple VLANs for local services? Well, fuck you for wanting to do that. (Even EdgeOS could do that.)

All of your modern (anything from the last 10 years) phones, computers and tablets already know how to handle multiple IPv6 SLAAC addresses from different subnets and route packets appropriately. All you need is a not-braindamaged router.

The firewall in Unifi is a huge regression compared to EdgeOS, and completely brain damaged compared to PF.

Oh, and the MDNS reflector... why is it so bad?

Ok, I think I need to stop now.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you using instead?

If I ditched my modest ubiquiti gear I’d probably try out https://www.alta.inc/ Because https://chrisbuechler.com/

This looks super interesting, thank you

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.

I've moved on from Ubiquiti access points as well. Their U6 simply does not handle VLANs properly, they never acknowledged the issue let alone fixed it. See https://community.ui.com/questions/U6-IW-how-to-trunk-all-5-... Their security issues in the past. Their failure to make the EdgeRouter handle DHCP and DNS properly. Etc... I've since moved to cheap switches that support all port vlan trunks and LACP bonding, the…

> TP-Link is less expensive and better performance. WiFi 7 and 10gbit for less money.

Thanks, they really seem like good alternative.

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