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MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by kelnos »

mschuster91 wrote: post #20
sneak wrote: post #18

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This is a macOS bug; it doesn’t need an IP address while it’s asleep. Waking up to renew a DHCP lease is crazy. Closed source OSes are such a bane.

> This is a macOS bug; it doesn’t need an IP address while it’s asleep. Waking up to renew a DHCP lease is crazy. It's actually not. As a user I'd expect the device to wake up and still have the same IP address via a continuation of the lease. Yes, the correct way would be a longer lived DHCP lease, but el-cheapo ISP routers often lock down such settings.

> As a user I'd expect the device to wake up and still have the same IP address via a continuation of the lease.

Most users don't know what IP addresses even are, let alone care what theirs is. I don't think Apple is (or should be) optimizing for you.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by ct0 »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #25
resters wrote: post #3

My iPad only lasts a few days even with zero use. I have not been able to figure out what settings to modify so that I can (for example) pick it up a month later and not find the battery dead.

My new A16 iPad seems to use more power sitting closed much than I would have thought. I came here to say this, but found you got to it first. I hope someone here has some thoughts on the matter. I am more Android guy, so I am not yet familiar with the options. Does the iPad have a power usage app describing what apps/services are using the power? Bluetooth for one to keep the Apple Pencil ready, I suppose.

yes, search for battery

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by Groxx »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #106
Groxx wrote: post #55

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tbh it seems intentional to me, and I broadly prefer it. I would much rather have a hot device than a loud fan, at very nearly all times I use a computer. hot aluminum dissipates heat quite well, just passively cool as long as possible please. could they have used larger fans to reduce that noise? yes, definitely, and probably should have. but it's hard to beat using the whole device as a radiator.

Personally I would prefer a laptop which optimizes for heat and noise over one which optimizes for thinness as a measure of success

you've got quite a lot of alternates then, just not any macs :)

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by vel0city »

sotix wrote: post #76
jbellis wrote: post #6

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It's Find My. No great solution. I turn my iPad off now when not actively using it.

Wow you’re right. Find My has used 10% of my battery in the past day even though my iPad stays permanently at home. What’s worse is that my battery life has dropped from 100% health to 96% after a year even though I enabled the 80% charge limit. I wonder if Find My has added excessive wear on the battery.

A lot of lithium batteries will have a hit of initial wear compared to brand new, level off the wear for a long while, then start declining again. It going from 100% health to 96% health in say the first year probably isn't too concerning, assuming it levels off around there soon.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by elicash »

I was on a trip and two nights in a ROW the battery went from 100% to 0% overnight while closed and on standby.

It turned out I was just leaving it too close to the split A/C unit at the airbnb.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by nsksl »

elicash wrote: post #115

I was on a trip and two nights in a ROW the battery went from 100% to 0% overnight while closed and on standby. It turned out I was just leaving it too close to the split A/C unit at the airbnb.

Wait, low temperatures drain your battery? I would’ve expected the opposite.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by jaggederest »

mmis1000 wrote: post #108
x0x0 wrote: post #104

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I see a lot of people plug their macs into an external monitor and keyboard and work with them shut. fwiw.

So, a dummy hdmi plug will do the job?

Dummy might not do it. You could need a full fake display adapter - cutting the end off an HDMI won't do the bidirectional stuff monitors do these days, I believe.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by msgodel »

See if this were happening on Linux I'd just rip out rtcwake and anything else that touches sleep other than s2ram.

Ripping things you don't like out of the OS when it misbehaves is very underrated.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by nsksl »

kelnos wrote: post #111
mschuster91 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a macOS bug; it doesn’t need an IP address while it’s asleep. Waking up to renew a DHCP lease is crazy. It's actually not. As a user I'd expect the device to wake up and still have the same IP address via a continuation of the lease. Yes, the correct way would be a longer lived DHCP lease, but el-cheapo ISP routers often lock down such settings.

> As a user I'd expect the device to wake up and still have the same IP address via a continuation of the lease. Most users don't know what IP addresses even are, let alone care what theirs is. I don't think Apple is (or should be) optimizing for you.

Okay, then… As a user I’d expect the device not to waste any time connecting to my wireless network and getting a dhcp lease, instead being already connected when I open the lid.

Re: MacBook Pro Insomnia

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Post by cbm-vic-20 »

ectocardia wrote: post #82

In case this helps anyone, I found that removing a Yubikey (i.e. with that contact sensor) seemed to reduce the number of times I opened my bag to find a Macbook Pro unexpectedly warm and with a drained battery.

Same here. My Yubikey-equiped M1 MBP also refuses to sleep, so I end up shutting it down every day. I suspect it appears as keyboard input periodically waking the machine.
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