It's interesting that they chose HN as the picture on their homepage; it makes you wonder how much of the company is supported by HN users. Is this site big enough to support a subscription based company that frequently advertises here?
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#22I really like Kagi, but I'm starting to get that same sense of anticipatory melancholy I used to get when I found a really good drug dealer back in the day - this product or service is fantastic, and I'm very happy to be able to give it money, but I recognize this is a short term affair and some day I'll be back to having to search for it again. I would continue to pay Kagi $10 a month forever for exactly the product…
I went through the same thing with Dropbox. I loved how simple it was initially: just a folder that syncs. Then they started adding all sorts of "enterprise" and "family" features that cluttered up the simple use case it satisfied just fine for me.
I understand that businesses need to expand and innovate. But it sure is nice to have a rock-solid reliable tool that just works long-term; something that you can depend on without it suddenly morphing into a weird new thing after you've built up skills and processes around it.
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#23I really like Kagi, but I'm starting to get that same sense of anticipatory melancholy I used to get when I found a really good drug dealer back in the day - this product or service is fantastic, and I'm very happy to be able to give it money, but I recognize this is a short term affair and some day I'll be back to having to search for it again. I would continue to pay Kagi $10 a month forever for exactly the product…
One of the extremely stupid reasons kagi needs to develop a browser is because ios safari prevents setting kagi as the default search engine, so they have to do some terrible hacks to get it to kind of work.
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#24Installed on my iPhone. I will give it a test drive. Safari is awful.
What's wrong with Safari?
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#25I guess Safari is the only major browser left that is just a browser. Google is an ad company. Microsoft is an ad company. Mozilla is an ad company. Brave is a crypto company. And these next wave of browsers are all going to be infested with AI, I suppose. Apple sells phones.
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#26I really like Kagi, but I'm starting to get that same sense of anticipatory melancholy I used to get when I found a really good drug dealer back in the day - this product or service is fantastic, and I'm very happy to be able to give it money, but I recognize this is a short term affair and some day I'll be back to having to search for it again. I would continue to pay Kagi $10 a month forever for exactly the product…
One of the extremely stupid reasons kagi needs to develop a browser is because ios safari prevents setting kagi as the default search engine, so they have to do some terrible hacks to get it to kind of work.
Yeah. That’s one reason I stopped using Kagi. Its not their fault but it is what it is.
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#27Only on MacOS and iOS...
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#28I'm an Orion+ paid user though I still don't use it for my daily driver. there's still a long way to go, especially around password manager integrations - iCloud passwords is pretty much unusable and 1Password is extremely flaky (though 1Password is a thoroughbred shitshow these days so probably not Kagi's fault). I pay for it because I hope it succeeds and because I love Kagi search. Posted from Orion RC.
On that detour, I’ve given up on 1Password for personal use and switched entirely to Apple’s Passwords. 1P was one of the first Mac apps I bought way back when and I’d been a huge proponent for many years. The current version’s an Electronic disaster though. It seems like I had to reconnect the browser plugin at least once a week and it just plain failed to autofill way too often. Even the Passwords plugin for Chrome is more reliable than 1P now, let alone on Safari where the integration is pretty much perfect IMO.
Sigh. I really liked 1P, but they’re walking a road I don’t want to follow.
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#29I really like Kagi, but I'm starting to get that same sense of anticipatory melancholy I used to get when I found a really good drug dealer back in the day - this product or service is fantastic, and I'm very happy to be able to give it money, but I recognize this is a short term affair and some day I'll be back to having to search for it again. I would continue to pay Kagi $10 a month forever for exactly the product…
One of the extremely stupid reasons kagi needs to develop a browser is because ios safari prevents setting kagi as the default search engine, so they have to do some terrible hacks to get it to kind of work.
I really hate that you can't set the default search engine easily like in other browsers, or that you can at least easily submit your company to be included in the defaults.
But with the Kagi extension all my searches are always redirected to Kagi on both Safari on iOS and Safari on macOS so I don't really see this as a real blocker as a user.
I understand that this is an onboarding problem, but for a technical user that's really not something preventing me from using Kagi (Like the other comment mentions).
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the extremely stupid reasons kagi needs to develop a browser is because ios safari prevents setting kagi as the default search engine, so they have to do some terrible hacks to get it to kind of work.
Yeah. That’s one reason I stopped using Kagi. Its not their fault but it is what it is.
I've great news - you can use Firefox on iOS and set Kagi as the search engine!