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AntiSec leaks 1,000,001 Apple UDIDs, Device Names/Types

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Post by rdtsc »

plugger wrote: post #96
rdtsc wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Surely this is illegal. So? Pretty sure torture and car bombing innocent women and children is also illegal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Beirut_car_bombing

We're talking about the FBI, not the CIA. You know, the same FBI that walked from Gitmo because detainee constitutional rights were being violated when they were being tortured. I'd love to read the warrant that granted this disclosure. If one doesn't exist I'd love to hear Apple's reasoning for releasing a 12 million + user database to LE without being legally obliged to do so.

> We're talking about the FBI, not the CIA

They are both part of the government and the culture of 'laws for us vs laws for them (the regular people)' is present in both.

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Post by crisnoble »

konstruktor wrote: post #201

If the full file (including addresses) gets into the wild, and I fear that this may happen, it will be a really useful tool for burglars. Many iOS devices probably correlate with many valuables in a home. That's a lot of lawsuits against everybody involved...

Pretty sure that a smart burglar could figure out approximate addresses of people who own iPhones by looking at publicly available Instagram or Twitter or Facebook or Flickr locations. Not to mention people telling the world "I'm camping this weekend" which a burglar hears as "I'll be gone all weekend, steal my things!"

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Post by mkhalil »

throwawaypopo wrote: post #172

Hi, first time here. I'm from Malaysia with a Jailbroken Ipad 2 as well. To my surprise, my device shows up on the http://pastehtml.com/udid link. So now what does this all means? (and) I've never been to US.

They're coming for you. Run!!

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Post by mkhalil »

crag wrote: post #200
krbbltr wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$ cat iphonelist.txt | grep c63e008e6271c3ac128eb6a242a9817528b6baef 'c63e008e6271c3ac128eb6a242a9817528b6baef','b996a080e11265a0c93436ba0b13b7c07ee4e8eef6faeb8516917b015d7355fb','“Administrator”的 iPad','iPad' 'c63e008e6271c3ac128eb6a242a9817528b6baef','b996a080e11265a0c93436ba0b13b7c07ee4e8eef6faeb8516917b015d7355fb','Obama','iPad' Looks legit...

You do know that there are other people in world with the name Obama, right? I know for a fact, the NSA protects all communications from the president (and most of the top level folk in his administration). If this turns out to really be the president (which I doubt) it would be a MAJOR breech.

For a fact? How so?

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Post by nutjob123 »

schappim wrote: post #63

Looks like they've got Obama's iPad: thea:Downloads admin$ cat ./iphonelist.txt | grep -i obama '473d6e1ebf0b100ed172ce5f69c97ba6c8f12ad5','766a23201c6089be11845bfef624dbaada68be52155079850951836e9373e5cd','hobamain','iPad' 'c63e008e6271c3ac128eb6a242a9817528b6baef','b996a080e11265a0c93436ba0b13b7c07ee4e8eef6faeb8516917b015d7355fb','Obama','iPad'

Is the address the white house?

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Post by zwdr »

robomartin wrote: post #207
zwdr wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, are syou serious? I didnt know anyone could be _that_ delusional about Apple. You _really_ think Apple cares about privacy? They aren't "that kind of company"? Where the hell do you get the idea that Apple cares about the morality of their decisions? Could it be that you are a fanboy? Wait, I know the answer to that already. ..."shit HN says", right here.

The accusation is that Apple INTENTIONALLY gave the FBI a database with twelve million records. That is what my comment refers to. It is preposterous to propose that Apple --or any company for that matter-- would willingly do that. The liability hole this would open up would be massive. They are a business and you can bet your ass that every decision with potential liability consequences is well considered by manager…

TBH, I doubt that Apple gives a shit- they would just declare it a leak, if they even get prosecuted. But that could be just my tinfoil hat talking.

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Post by pavel_lishin »

redthrowaway wrote: post #59
DigitalSea wrote: post #15

This is troubling on so many levels. Why did an FBI agent have a document of user and device info on his desktop and the real question is why are the FBI tracking this information in the first place? Surely this is illegal. By the way, I think AntiSec needs to hire someone to write their releases for them. I struggled at times to make sense of the almost gibberish in their rant-filled sentences and at times some of t…

While yes, it was generally poor, I got a kick out of the following: "a monthly fee, forever until you die. That's the future; nothing is really yours. LAAS - Life As A Service."

Not too poignant. When was living ever free?

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Post by salimmadjd »

FACEBOOK? If I had to bet on any company I would bet on Facebook as the main/top source of this data. Where else can you easily be profiled so easily by liking or sharing content the Big Bro would deem as subversive. Followed by phone carriers since they have already been working with Big Bro, then apple and google. Combine these and you should be able to know everything you want. Govs probably won't deal with smaller companies lest increasing chances of leakage, etc.

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Post by gonzo »

yangez wrote: post #24
saulrh wrote: post #5

Money quote for the people that don't want to wade through ten pages of rant: During the second week of March 2012, a Dell Vostro notebook, used by Supervisor Special Agent Christopher K. Stangl from FBI Regional Cyber Action Team and New York FBI Office Evidence Response Team was breached using the AtomicReferenceArray vulnerability on Java, during the shell session some files were downloaded from his Desktop folder…

This is very disturbing. How did the FBI gain access to all this information? It should be locked up in Apple. From what I see, the NCFTA in "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv" looks like it stands for the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance, which "functions as a conduit between private industry and law enforcement." ( http://www.ncfta.net/ ) Is Apple willingly sharing personal information with the FBI through th…

More:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/september/cyber_091611 “The exchange of strategic and threat intelligence is really the bread and butter of the NCFTA,” said Special Agent Eric Strom, who heads the FBI unit—the Cyber Initiative and Resource Fusion Unit (CIRFU)—assigned to the NCFTA. “The success of this effort at every level comes down to the free flow of information among our partners.”

Dan Larkin (the FBI Agent who setup NCFTA in 1997) http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-larkin/25/90/910

Note that he used to be with CIRFU. LIkely that he still is with the CIRFU. They share office space: http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=51778... "Mularski works for a little-known FBI division called the Cyber Initiative and Resource Fusion Unit, run out of the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The unit is different from a typical FBI field office. It works hand in hand with industry and takes the time to do the deep research required to penetrate the world of online crimina

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