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Re: Stargate Norway

#101

Post by FirmwareBurner »

londons_explore wrote: post #93
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Remember Russia has huge quantities of free gas which used to be sold to the EU but is right now wasted It isn't "WASTED", what re you on about.

Russia has no east-west gas pipeline. That means gas extracted in the west of Russia, which was previously sold to Europe, is now in excess and has nowhere to go. Currently it is flared off. News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62652133

That was August 2022. What are the odds it's the same after 3 years?

Re: Stargate Norway

#102

Post by rasz »

benrutter wrote: post #29
Y-bar wrote: post #6

So another major bidder for electricity in my area comes online. Not looking forward to the invoices next winter…

Anyone needing context on this: Norway's electrical infrastructure is almost too good since citizen's prices are set in competition with exporting to the UK, and mainland Europe. Probably will reap the rewards in about 10 years time once the UK is producing huge amounts of wind and Europe solar, but that's not nuch of a consolation for the minute.

What rewards would north Norway reap when they pay 2 euro/mwh right now?

Re: Stargate Norway

#103

Post by esseph »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #100
esseph wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like the EU has decided to pull away from the US. As has Canada and frankly, a lot of the rest of the world.

Pulling away by investing billions in the US economy and buying more US products and services? You have a weird definition of pulling away.

If you review the stipulations of the "deals" and read any of the analysis, these are stop-gaps.

New production commitments, military commitments, pulling away from US big tech.

No matter what happens, the damage has been done. It's picking up momentum seemingly every day.

And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.

Re: Stargate Norway

#104

Post by latchkey »

This is being done in partnership with a company called NScale. They once sued a friend of mine over software he wrote, and lost.

I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but if you’re going to play those kinds of games and still lose, that’s not the kind of partner I’d trust.

Re: Stargate Norway

#105

Post by nazgob »

dsign wrote: post #24
tyfon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have about 99% hydro power, Iceland is the geothermal county.

But there is also plenty of oil to run the backup generators...

Hydro is quite stable. I don’t think Norway is burning oil for power. Natural gas would be better but still, probably not required.

Re: Stargate Norway

#107

Post by benrutter »

rasz wrote: post #102
benrutter wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone needing context on this: Norway's electrical infrastructure is almost too good since citizen's prices are set in competition with exporting to the UK, and mainland Europe. Probably will reap the rewards in about 10 years time once the UK is producing huge amounts of wind and Europe solar, but that's not nuch of a consolation for the minute.

What rewards would north Norway reap when they pay 2 euro/mwh right now?

Not so much North Norway, but certainly south Norway who currently pay taxes that build north Norway's infrastructure, but have to compete on price with the UK and Europe.

Re: Stargate Norway

#109

Post by FirmwareBurner »

esseph wrote: post #103
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pulling away by investing billions in the US economy and buying more US products and services? You have a weird definition of pulling away.

If you review the stipulations of the "deals" and read any of the analysis, these are stop-gaps. New production commitments, military commitments, pulling away from US big tech. No matter what happens, the damage has been done. It's picking up momentum seemingly every day. And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.

>pulling away from US big tech

Stock price says otherwise. Probably because replacing MS Office with Libre Office doesn't really mean much while still running your digital infrastructure on US services, US chips and US phones. Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube.

>And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.

Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds is still in US.

Re: Stargate Norway

#110

Post by ben_w »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #109
esseph wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you review the stipulations of the "deals" and read any of the analysis, these are stop-gaps. New production commitments, military commitments, pulling away from US big tech. No matter what happens, the damage has been done. It's picking up momentum seemingly every day. And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.

>pulling away from US big tech Stock price says otherwise. Probably because replacing MS Office with Libre Office doesn't really mean much while still running your digital infrastructure on US services, US chips and US phones. Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube. >And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers. Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds…

> Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube.

March 15, 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dailymotion

> Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds is still in US.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y

I wouldn't call Linus a "scientific researcher". He's an engineer, and that's also a group that economies need, but he's not a scientist, and not a researcher.

Unfortunately for the "engineering" part: https://archive.ph/xChye

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