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Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by specproc »

MengerSponge wrote: post #11
specproc wrote: post #3

Where's Anaconda at these days? I've not touched it since starting out with Python and don't think I've touched it since discovering other package managers. Anyone here using it regularly in 2025, is there anything I'm missing out on?

Anaconda sells a managed environment for data science applications, right? Basically the Red Hat business model? I've used conda for years and haven't set aside the day it'll take to switch to something simple and modern (uv's top of the list, but I'm open to suggestions)

Heh, like I'm still holding on to pip. uv looks fab, really need to give it a go.

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

blitzar wrote: post #9

Congratulations to Astral (makers of uv). At these valuations you are now all billionaires. You have earned the commas and car doors that open like \__/.

Unfortunately they've made the mistake of calling their Python package manager a Python package manager, rather than the secret to advancing AI.

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by throwaway3646 »

matrss wrote: post #29

Anaconda != the conda ecosystem != Python Everyone who is comparing Anaconda and conda to Astral and uv is missing that the conda ecosystem is language-agnostic while uv is python specific. uv won't help you install gfortran, for example. It is not a replacement, unless you only do python (and use at most common non-python libraries that are available on PyPI). On the other hand you don't have to use anything associa…

If you are in a commercial environment, I can only warn to think that using alternative conda clients will be safe. Condaforge for instance will happily download from the main channel if the recipe requires it. It's pretty hard to make sure this does not happen, best solution is to block access on a network level.

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by specproc »

myth_drannon wrote: post #22
specproc wrote: post #3

Where's Anaconda at these days? I've not touched it since starting out with Python and don't think I've touched it since discovering other package managers. Anyone here using it regularly in 2025, is there anything I'm missing out on?

Setting up a python environment for ML work (pytorch + Nvidia) is simpler with Anaconda, it's a pure dependency nightmare doing it with something else.

Yeah, I remember finding that the case for a while. I can't remember when things clicked and it was fine without. I moved to arch a while back, perhaps then.

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by SJC_Hacker »

myth_drannon wrote: post #22
specproc wrote: post #3

Where's Anaconda at these days? I've not touched it since starting out with Python and don't think I've touched it since discovering other package managers. Anyone here using it regularly in 2025, is there anything I'm missing out on?

Setting up a python environment for ML work (pytorch + Nvidia) is simpler with Anaconda, it's a pure dependency nightmare doing it with something else.

Docker

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by wrsh07 »

huntertwo wrote: post #21

Is it just me or is trivial software getting overfunded? How does an AI skin on vscode or conda have a big enough moat for these crazy rounds?

Anaconda makes less sense to me, but cursor does have revenue numbers. I haven't seen them so I'm not sure if they look good (we use API keys with cursor so I'm pretty sure they get pure saas margins from us)

I would also venture to guess that cursor is a somewhat nontrivial modification to vscode at this point.

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by matrss »

throwaway3646 wrote: post #33
matrss wrote: post #29

Anaconda != the conda ecosystem != Python Everyone who is comparing Anaconda and conda to Astral and uv is missing that the conda ecosystem is language-agnostic while uv is python specific. uv won't help you install gfortran, for example. It is not a replacement, unless you only do python (and use at most common non-python libraries that are available on PyPI). On the other hand you don't have to use anything associa…

If you are in a commercial environment, I can only warn to think that using alternative conda clients will be safe. Condaforge for instance will happily download from the main channel if the recipe requires it. It's pretty hard to make sure this does not happen, best solution is to block access on a network level.

Do you have an example for a package on conda-forge that actually does this? I can only find a vague announcement from 2021 that the "defaults channel is now dropped when building conda-forge packages", as well as statements that the conda-forge repositories are considered incompatible with the defaults channel and having both enabled is an unsupported configuration. Access is blocked on the network level anyway.

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by legobmw99 »

throwaway3646 wrote: post #33
matrss wrote: post #29

Anaconda != the conda ecosystem != Python Everyone who is comparing Anaconda and conda to Astral and uv is missing that the conda ecosystem is language-agnostic while uv is python specific. uv won't help you install gfortran, for example. It is not a replacement, unless you only do python (and use at most common non-python libraries that are available on PyPI). On the other hand you don't have to use anything associa…

If you are in a commercial environment, I can only warn to think that using alternative conda clients will be safe. Condaforge for instance will happily download from the main channel if the recipe requires it. It's pretty hard to make sure this does not happen, best solution is to block access on a network level.

That can only happen if you as a user have the 'defaults' channel still configured as available, and conda-forge considers it a user error whenever this happens (the official line is `conda-forge is incompatible with the packages provided in defaults`). Many bug reports are closed simply by telling the user to fix their channel priorities and stop mixing the two

Re: Anaconda Raises $150M Series C

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Post by igortg »

throwaway3646 wrote: post #33
matrss wrote: post #29

Anaconda != the conda ecosystem != Python Everyone who is comparing Anaconda and conda to Astral and uv is missing that the conda ecosystem is language-agnostic while uv is python specific. uv won't help you install gfortran, for example. It is not a replacement, unless you only do python (and use at most common non-python libraries that are available on PyPI). On the other hand you don't have to use anything associa…

If you are in a commercial environment, I can only warn to think that using alternative conda clients will be safe. Condaforge for instance will happily download from the main channel if the recipe requires it. It's pretty hard to make sure this does not happen, best solution is to block access on a network level.

I use Miniforge in a commercial environment and never found a package downloading from the main channel. I'm pretty sure a recipe that does that would be blocked by conda-forge reviewers.
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