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Many countries that said no to ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided

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Re: Many countries that said no to ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided

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Full post: Leak: Many countries that said NO to #ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided—even though the 2025 plan is even more extreme! The vote is THIS October. Tell your government to #StopChatControl! Act now: https://chatcontrol.eu

That website is pretty bad. Don't say "act now" with a link when the link has no concrete actions listed. "Ask your government not to do that" means absolutely nothing. There should be a list of what people should do step by step based on their country.

This link is full of the usual self-promoting priorities of politicians, and the modern "influencers" who mimic them.

1. Redirects to someone's personal-name Web site.

2. The top heading on the page is their personal name and what seems to be personal logo.

3. Immediately below that logo the navbar entry for "ABOUT ME / CONTACT".

4. The last entry in the navbar is "GET INVOLVED", and the first entry of that menu is "Follow Me".

5. The first entry in the navbar is "WELCOME" and redirects to a page with a huge photo of him, followed by a heading that starts "Patrick Breyer – Digital freedom fighter and former Member of European Parliament for the German and the European Pirate Party" subheading "Europe’s voice of privacy and the free Internet".

6. Then the page below all this has some information.

I think this is one reason that positive revolutions can't happen anymore: the potential leaders/actors see no non-corrupt role models for how to operate. It's a very fuzzy line between self-promotion in service of the mission somehow, and self-promotion in service of power/influence for its own sake.

Re: Many countries that said no to ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided

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post #12

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Really, we're not allowed to agree with some of the EU's ideas but disagree with others? You demand that we take every policy proposal from the EU as part of a single coherent political philosophy?

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Re: Many countries that said no to ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That website is pretty bad. Don't say "act now" with a link when the link has no concrete actions listed. "Ask your government not to do that" means absolutely nothing. There should be a list of what people should do step by step based on their country.

This link is full of the usual self-promoting priorities of politicians, and the modern "influencers" who mimic them. 1. Redirects to someone's personal-name Web site. 2. The top heading on the page is their personal name and what seems to be personal logo. 3. Immediately below that logo the navbar entry for "ABOUT ME / CONTACT". 4. The last entry in the navbar is "GET INVOLVED", and the first entry of that menu is "…

In a representative democracy there is nothing nefarious about a representative presenting himself as a person who would stand for certain policies.

Re: Many countries that said no to ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really, we're not allowed to agree with some of the EU's ideas but disagree with others? You demand that we take every policy proposal from the EU as part of a single coherent political philosophy?

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>HN is one person

Re: Many countries that said no to ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided

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I really don't get it. It's against the German constitution and yet there are still politicians pushing for that, again and again. We should make it mandatory that when something is clearly against the constitution you loose your job as a politician. It won't work anyway. It's the same spiel wasting so much money and time. Do we know which lobby group/party is pushing for that yet again?
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