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Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by deviation »

foobarian wrote: post #100
m101 wrote: post #20

Perhaps this will mean a version of YouTube comes out without YouTube shorts integration. YouTube shorts, imo, legitimises the govts complaint.

I would love to block the shorts at home router level. I hesitate to just block the site altogether

If you have a raspberry pi or some device laying around that you're happy to act as an always-on-server you could set it up as a Layer 7 firewall using something like Nginx to act as a reverse proxy for SSL/TLS interception.

Throw this into some LLM on research mode and I'm sure you could get some step-by-step instructions for setting it up.

I suppose it's not much different to a PiHole but instead of filtering out ads you're filtering out shorts.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by energy123 »

paradox460 wrote: post #279
forgotoldacc wrote: post #46

A couple months ago, I saw people everywhere online (including HN) saying they love the idea of social media bans for kids. They love the idea of keeping people under 18 safe from the dangers of porn and mature games and other unclean things as well. Now governments around the world are acting in unison to happily give those people what they want, and people are suddenly confused and pissed that these laws mean you n…

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety

The case study of Bukele in El Salvador shows why this is naive. Low safety directly caused low liberty, because voters care about safety more than liberty, due to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Delivering safety is a necessary condition for preserving liberty. It is not a nuisance or a side quest.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by johnnyanmac »

exe34 wrote: post #405
abduhl wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are, in fact, in charge of your teenager as a parent. They are, in fact, still a kid. Controlling your kid’s access to things which you deem harmful is, in fact, not abusive. Setting appropriate boundaries does not, in fact, mean you are not treating your kid as a person who has their own sense of self. Most kids will not, in fact, hate you for setting boundaries and being their parent. It is quite impressive tha…

You when your kids reach 18: "why do my kids not talk to me anymore? oh woe is me, what have I ever done wrong!"

If you're lucky. That means they have a good moral compass and figured out that you were the anchor on their lives.

I'm especially worried about the point where parents are accompanying college students into their inerviews. Which is an slowly, but alarmingly rising phenomenon.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by johnnyanmac »

goopypoop wrote: post #331
frereubu wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That feature isn't what I think the parent comment is asking for. What you've linked to is specifically YouTube Kids, and it's groups of channels whitelisted by the YouTube team. What I think the parent comment is asking for, and I want too, is full availability of all YouTube channels, but the ability to block everything except whitelisted channels. I agree, it's too niche a product. But I often think that people wh…

"parent your kids" doesn't mean "ask youtube to be better", it means "teach your kids to choose better"

depends on the age range.

and that's the problem. I don't want Youtube's input aside from being a dumb pipe. I want them to hand me the remote so I can manage my feed.

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Post by alt227 »

exe34 wrote: post #405
abduhl wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are, in fact, in charge of your teenager as a parent. They are, in fact, still a kid. Controlling your kid’s access to things which you deem harmful is, in fact, not abusive. Setting appropriate boundaries does not, in fact, mean you are not treating your kid as a person who has their own sense of self. Most kids will not, in fact, hate you for setting boundaries and being their parent. It is quite impressive tha…

You when your kids reach 18: "why do my kids not talk to me anymore? oh woe is me, what have I ever done wrong!"

This is like the swansong of every parent ever lol.

Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption

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Post by jay_kyburz »

SlowTao wrote: post #391
jay_kyburz wrote: post #106

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I'm an everyday Australian, I'll take a few guesses. (I don't support these new laws) 1. we don't have as an antagonistic relationship with our government and we trust that most of what will be banned will be gross stuff we don't want weirdos watching. 2. I think most people feel social media really is breaking young people, and its easier if all kids are banned than just trying to ban your own kids. It's really hard…

To use the Donald Horne quote "Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people's ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise." Unfortunately, this has propagated down to a lot of the people. They want the government to be…

I'm not sure I would describe it as government overreach, to me it looks more like the government doesn't understand the tech and what these new rules mean.

I would have more respect if they just came out and said you can't be anonymous on social media any more. When you post, somebody needs to know who you are, how old you are, and where you live.

I think the world would be a better place if everybody would just pull their head in and get off social media.

With respect to Donald Horne, its not the 60's any more, and there are plenty of great Australian ideas and culture. The hottest 100 last weekend is a great reminder of how much great Australian music there is.

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Post by alt227 »

abduhl wrote: post #313
shakna wrote: post #304

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> Who's in charge here, you or your kids? As a parent you're not in charge of a teenager. You're there to guide them, and try to protect them from their bad choices, but they have reached a point where they are beginning to control their self-determinism. They're not a kid anymore. If you just try to act the authority, try to control everything, then well... You'll either end up in abusive land, or trying to control…

You are, in fact, in charge of your teenager as a parent. They are, in fact, still a kid. Controlling your kid’s access to things which you deem harmful is, in fact, not abusive. Setting appropriate boundaries does not, in fact, mean you are not treating your kid as a person who has their own sense of self. Most kids will not, in fact, hate you for setting boundaries and being their parent. It is quite impressive tha…

> It is quite impressive that nearly everything you’ve typed is incorrect.

Parenting is pretty subjective, and everybody has their own way of doing it. You may disagree with something, but that doesnt make it incorrect here.

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Post by GardenLetter27 »

sharperguy wrote: post #153
ElCapitanMarkla wrote: post #133

I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels. I'm happy for my kids to have free access to certain channels on youtube, but the mind numbing shorts, and shit they find on random channels just does my head in. And it seems to be getting worse, I'm not sure if its that they are getting older and able…

I haven't tried it myself yet, but I self host my own Jellyfin(1) instance, and I've had it recommended to combine it with pinchflat(2), which will auto download and label entire youtube channels, as they publish new videos. So then you could use it to archive and provide access to the channels you want without worrying about the recommendations and other channels. 1. https://jellyfin.org/ 2. https://github.com/kiera…

Can you link it up with ffmpeg and SponsorBlock to remove ads?

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Post by energy123 »

simpaticoder wrote: post #8

Completely banning all of YouTube feels like throwing out the baby—valuable educational content—with the bathwater—everything else. It seems more effective for YouTube to offer a dedicated educational platform, like education.youtube.com, with content filters built in. That way, students could access channels like 3blue1brown without exposure to unrelated or less appropriate content like MrBeast or Jubilee. Heck, I m…

YouTube has so much good content with sub-5000 views. Lectures or interviews with quality thinkers who avoid the podcast bro drama circuit. Hard to discover with Youtube's junk-food recommendation engine.
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