My first thought when I saw the age checking in the UK was it’s more of a social monitoring tool than what they say it is
Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
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Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#362I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels. I'm happy for my kids to have free access to certain channels on youtube, but the mind numbing shorts, and shit they find on random channels just does my head in. And it seems to be getting worse, I'm not sure if its that they are getting older and able…
> I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels The answer is to this question is always: it is too niche a product feature for a giant corporation to prioritize. This product would require constant work to keep in sync as UIs and features change. It would be one more feature to regression test again…
Electron apps solve the sync problem by redirecting to main site for full UI. Also there's not much need for UI in this case, because the user is not supposed to change or see whitelist, filtering can be implemented on server side.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#363I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels. I'm happy for my kids to have free access to certain channels on youtube, but the mind numbing shorts, and shit they find on random channels just does my head in. And it seems to be getting worse, I'm not sure if its that they are getting older and able…
> I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels The answer is to this question is always: it is too niche a product feature for a giant corporation to prioritize. This product would require constant work to keep in sync as UIs and features change. It would be one more feature to regression test again…
How can it be niche if it would be front and center for every responsible parent?
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels The answer is to this question is always: it is too niche a product feature for a giant corporation to prioritize. This product would require constant work to keep in sync as UIs and features change. It would be one more feature to regression test again…
You heard it here first folks - children are too niche now. 2ish billion people, well known for their indirect spending power, are not worth figuring out a simple whitelist system for.
It's parenting that is niche. It's outsourced to Google.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#365Why are so many countries like Australia, UK, EU, etc suddenly pro censorship. Aren’t these all liberal democracies? I would think these policies would be very unpopular. Is there some analysis of how this came to be normalized?
I'm an everyday Australian, I'll take a few guesses. (I don't support these new laws) 1. we don't have as an antagonistic relationship with our government and we trust that most of what will be banned will be gross stuff we don't want weirdos watching. 2. I think most people feel social media really is breaking young people, and its easier if all kids are banned than just trying to ban your own kids. It's really hard…
> It's really hard to explain to a kid
Laws created based on parent's inability to explain something to their kids are invariably shit.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want the Netflix version of this. An account that is completely empty except for shows that I add. And not for kids, I just want an empty library that I can fill myself.
Arrr, there's a way to do that, just not a way to pay for it.
Quite the seaworthy approach if you ask me.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels The answer is to this question is always: it is too niche a product feature for a giant corporation to prioritize. This product would require constant work to keep in sync as UIs and features change. It would be one more feature to regression test again…
How can it be niche if it would be front and center for every responsible parent?
>responsible parent
>responsible
Yeah, that's niche.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#368A couple months ago, I saw people everywhere online (including HN) saying they love the idea of social media bans for kids. They love the idea of keeping people under 18 safe from the dangers of porn and mature games and other unclean things as well. Now governments around the world are acting in unison to happily give those people what they want, and people are suddenly confused and pissed that these laws mean you n…
I think the concern about how this will be implemented (e.g. selfie and ID submission) is well-founded. I also think that letting tech companies make billions by feeding our youth mental junk food is a problem. I'm not sure where the middle path is, but I think it'll need some real thought to figure out.
> I'm not sure where the middle path is, but I think it'll need some real thought to figure out.
Bans on recommendation systems. Doesn't need much thought to figure out. Instant 90% harm reduction.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#369I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels. I'm happy for my kids to have free access to certain channels on youtube, but the mind numbing shorts, and shit they find on random channels just does my head in. And it seems to be getting worse, I'm not sure if its that they are getting older and able…
I don't have kids, so I really can't comment, but I'll describe my setup.
Ublock origin and Sponserblock on Firefox. I also have an extension (forget the name) that blocks recommendations after a video. Disable autoplay.
There are also extensions that replace the home page with the subscriptions page.
But really, if BS exists on the internet, either your kids will find it or it will be shown to them. There's nothing you can do.
Re: Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption
#370I don't really understand why Youtube won't let me create a profile, on my paid family account that I'm paying $29 NZD a month for, which lets me whitelist channels. I'm happy for my kids to have free access to certain channels on youtube, but the mind numbing shorts, and shit they find on random channels just does my head in. And it seems to be getting worse, I'm not sure if its that they are getting older and able…
You can force them to use browser like firefox if possible. I had seen some extension that you can block the shorts!