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Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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Far from the title: Microsoft, anybody home?

I think the current title used by OP actually conveys the gist of the article the best.

I hope the guideline is clearer. "Unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." is too ambiguous.

Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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I've encountered something similar with Apple. I tried to create an Apple id on a reconditioned Mac. It said the machine had been used too many times to create an Appleid. In the process it seemed to flag my phone number so I was unable to create an account on another device. The two support chats just told me to try again with no change. The first chat took about 40 minutes, there was a 5 minute pause on every response from them. At least on the 2nd chat I was able to ask for a 2nd level support call who fixed the problem.

Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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This kind of issue is absurdly common. I’ve seen basically the same thing with Microsoft, Amazon and Google—personally and with others. With Google, it’s well-documented that sometimes, even if you don’t have 2FA turned on and you know your password, they simply won’t let you log in without some sort of additional verification… which may not be possible. This hit me once while overseas, I think I managed to get in by…

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Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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Also if you have multiple microsoft 365 accounts, switching between those in the webapp seems to be impossible for years already. There's a switch account option, you can click it and sign in to another account, except you just stay logged in as the previous account.

Firefox "Containers" are great for this. I have color-coded tabs for various customer work accounts / tenants.

Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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I've also been experiencing issues with the Authenticator app and Outlook, and it seems many others online are facing similar problems [0][1].

It's genuinely disappointing that using the Microsoft Authenticator app is a mandatory requirement for work, especially since they introduced the tap the correct number thing.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Outlook/comments/1m4wp7h/microsoft_...

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4376965/...

Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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Microsoft’s peak was Windows 7. It’s all been downhill after that.

They had multiple peaks. DOS 6.22, Windows 2000, Windows XP/2K3 (kinda), and 7. They're trying hard to make 11 rhyme with the histories of Vista and Bob. (I only use Windows 11 Enterprise on my oscilloscope control and instrumentation logging lab box, and on a gaming-ish laptop with an eGPU.)

Peak Microsoft to me was 1999-2000. Office 2000 (though Office 97 was also excellent), Windows 2000, and Visual Basic 6.0 were great.

In my opinion, things started going downhill with Windows XP, with the introduction of product activation and the later introduction of forced software updates in Service Pack 2. I also don’t like the UI changes that Microsoft made in the 2000s, notably the Luna theme in Windows XP and the introduction of the ribbon in Office 2007. I still don’t like the ribbon nearly 20 years after its introduction.

My take is that 1990s Microsoft software tended to get out of my way. From the 2000s onward, it seems that Microsoft software often gets in my way. I found a refuge in Mac OS X, but in the past decade macOS has gotten more annoying.

Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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It's well known some things will trip those flags, probably not what all of them are or why, but most of them inappropriately (e.g. rating IP trustworthiness, but also simple HTTP requests that look "odd"). It's also well understood you have little to no options available as contacting support, live human or not as it may be, is made intentionally opaque and difficult or completely impossible. They just don't care, there's no reason to when you're one of the many hundreds of millions using their service most likely at no cost, and it's not unique to Microsoft. It's not that they became incompetent (they are, objectively), they simply never cared about you.

Re: Microsoft became incompetent in IT

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Never mind that ... look at next quarter's profit numbers and dividend. Like all corporations the only cohort they care about are their shareholders and executive suite.

It is really shocking that their revenue keeps going up. I guess Azure makes sense.

Microsoft is still the best IT business partner for non-tech enterprise organisations. The sort of support you get as a tiny company or a private customer, like the stuff from the article, is similar to what you get from a lot of other tech companies. You get to talk with an AI if you're lucky enough that it's not just an automated system. Step into enterprise where Microsoft will call you when something goes wrong. Sure they've moved from old-scool product licenses to Azure, and their partner program is less "outsourced". The platform is still selling products that make it very easy to be an IT operations unit where your IT related corporate titles can tell the rest of the organisation that they are in constant talks with Microsoft who is working hard to resolve the issue.

It's an old tale, but Azure was sort of late to enter the market here in Europe compared to AWS (GCP was never really an option for a lot of sectors due to Google's inability to sell actual products without Big Brother). Anyway, in the early days AWS had terrible support, it was basically like trying to contact Google as a private customer even if you were a major company. Then came Azure and blew it's way into the enterprise sector, partly because Microsoft was already there but also because Microsoft did what they always do, and actually give you people to talk with. 3 months later we had an AWS representative calling us with a similar experience on sale. Google never adopted anything like it, but today AWS is frankly a great experience for enterprise as well.

The last part Microsoft has is that they bundle things. Teams didn't win because it was the best at what it did when it arrived. It won because nobody in non-tech enterprise would want to pay for a Teams alternative when they were already paying for Teams anyway. In Enterprise you don't pay the listing prices that you or I would if we were to buy office365, windows and some Azure services. You instead buy things through a partner program, and then some of the licenses are different than they otherwise would be.

There is no real alternative to it. All of Europe is looking into moving away from USA tech giants now. You can absolutely replace the Office365 platform with something like Open Deks, but you can't do it without having IT operations staff who can do a lot of the things Microsoft would typically do for you. Similarily you can absolutely run things on Hetzner or OVH, but not as easily as you could if you were doing the Azure vendor lock-in.

If it wasn't for the current geo-political situation, Microsoft would continue it's monopoly on non-tech organisations. For a good while anyway. Because ironically one of their strengths was familiarity. It used to be that when you hired someone, they knew Microsoft Office and they knew Windows, but they've lost that edge. Maybe because this blog entry is spot on as far as the private customer experience goes. Today the most frequently asked question from our new employees as far as IT goes is "can I get a mac?".

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