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The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign

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Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign

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Post by oceanhaiyang »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #195
oceanhaiyang wrote: post #118

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Very anti-HN thinking to be posted here. I see a common trend in people loving blogging for it helps solidify their thoughts. Making an LLM do this is only wasting everyone time.

Whatever you think HN is, it isn't. People are not represented by a subdomain of an accelerator. HN also drank the crypto-crap and NFT Kool-Aid. It's nice to see people able to not follow the groupthink.

> Whatever you think HN is, it isn't. People are not represented by a subdomain of an accelerator.

This is like something my racist grandmother says when I tell her a historical fact and she says you can’t tell me all plantation owners are racist because you didn’t meet them all or something similar ridiculous.

People can make statements from experience. Claiming HN doesn’t love blogs is out of touch.

Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign

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Post by hammyhavoc »

oceanhaiyang wrote: post #201
hammyhavoc wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever you think HN is, it isn't. People are not represented by a subdomain of an accelerator. HN also drank the crypto-crap and NFT Kool-Aid. It's nice to see people able to not follow the groupthink.

> Whatever you think HN is, it isn't. People are not represented by a subdomain of an accelerator. This is like something my racist grandmother says when I tell her a historical fact and she says you can’t tell me all plantation owners are racist because you didn’t meet them all or something similar ridiculous. People can make statements from experience. Claiming HN doesn’t love blogs is out of touch.

The statement being made is not "HN doesn't love blogs".

The statement being made is "Very anti-HN thinking to be posted here."

Rather than present useless analogies, engage with what's actually been presented. I didn't ask about your grandmother.

Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign

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Post by oceanhaiyang »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #202
oceanhaiyang wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whatever you think HN is, it isn't. People are not represented by a subdomain of an accelerator. This is like something my racist grandmother says when I tell her a historical fact and she says you can’t tell me all plantation owners are racist because you didn’t meet them all or something similar ridiculous. People can make statements from experience. Claiming HN doesn’t love blogs is out of touch.

The statement being made is not "HN doesn't love blogs". The statement being made is "Very anti-HN thinking to be posted here." Rather than present useless analogies, engage with what's actually been presented. I didn't ask about your grandmother.

> Rather than present useless analogies, engage with what's actually been presented. I didn't ask about your grandmother.

I guess I can’t make the statement that all HN users are not jerks.

Calling analogies useless because you won’t engage with others who disagree is rich.

Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign

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Post by survirtual »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #142
survirtual wrote: post #140

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We need a system for digital identity that can be confidently connected to a singular living organism. That identity acts as a sort of credential. With that credential, you can anonymously take online action that is untraceable to the identity, besides knowing the anon identity is a real, singular human. If you can follow that logic, you will see that this makes many, many things possible. Anonymous credentials are p…

> If you can follow that logic I can't, because it's not logical. You want a credential that provides exactly one bit of information with certainty. It's not at all clear that something like that exists or if it did, how you would prevent multiple people from sharing the same credential if it was also actually possible to use it anonymously. > It can represent "this anon identity is a PhD in physics", "this one is a…

I didn't say any of this...

There are methods to produce anon credentials without tying it to an identity, independent of any other credential claims. It doesn't leak any information at all. What are you on about?

Re: The future is not self-hosted, but self-sovereign

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Post by survirtual »

bluebarbet wrote: post #154
survirtual wrote: post #140

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We need a system for digital identity that can be confidently connected to a singular living organism. That identity acts as a sort of credential. With that credential, you can anonymously take online action that is untraceable to the identity, besides knowing the anon identity is a real, singular human. If you can follow that logic, you will see that this makes many, many things possible. Anonymous credentials are p…

The system you are describing exists already, in China. And indeed it "makes many, many things possible". For one, it makes the concept of a ticket meaningless: either your "single living organism" (i.e. biometric ID) has permission to enter the movie theater, or get on the train, or whatever, or it doesn't. The hassle reduction is enormous! And it is also widely considered dystopian. Clearly the crucial issue is the…

No, it actually doesn't. The system I am describing is not controllable by a state actor.
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