Why all the buzz? I thought that the people who buy Apple products or use centralized social networks knowingly sacrifice their privacy and already expect things like this to happen.
AntiSec leaks 1,000,001 Apple UDIDs, Device Names/Types
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#172Hi, first time here. I'm from Malaysia with a Jailbroken Ipad 2 as well. To my surprise, my device shows up on the http://pastehtml.com/udid link.
So now what does this all means? (and) I've never been to US.
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#173the only thing to quench the appetite for additional wealth is the dirt of the grave
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whatsapp, ebuddy pro, ebuddy XMS, Angry Birds, Angry Birds Space, FML, XKCD, Facebook, Spotify, BBC News, Dropbox, Steam and PokerStars are the more popular ones official I have installed. I also have Cydia, a few tweaks and finally Installous (didn't want to admit that - I don't use it often - but thought it may spread some light here)
I run Cydia, and have determined only 16.7% of the UDIDs in that file are from jailbroken devices: I thereby do not believe that whatever managed to get this data is anywhere in our ecosystem.
Doesn't 16% sounds above the average ? Could it be related to app warez on jailbroken devices, somehow ?
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's elite (or 1337 if you will). It's supposed to sound cool. All the underground computer groups have talked like that since the early warez/cracking/phreaking scene.
Are you sure they're not just really bad at writing?
A lot of the "scene" traditions and symbols has a lineage back to adolescent boys in the early 80's as that's when many of the influential groups exploded onto the scene, so even if they're emulating a traditional style, they're emulating one that arose out of kids who wrote badly who tried to sound cool.
(I've some really horrible examples to my credit too, but thankfully I don't think any of it has survived)
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whatsapp, ebuddy pro, ebuddy XMS, Angry Birds, Angry Birds Space, FML, XKCD, Facebook, Spotify, BBC News, Dropbox, Steam and PokerStars are the more popular ones official I have installed. I also have Cydia, a few tweaks and finally Installous (didn't want to admit that - I don't use it often - but thought it may spread some light here)
I run Cydia, and have determined only 16.7% of the UDIDs in that file are from jailbroken devices: I thereby do not believe that whatever managed to get this data is anywhere in our ecosystem.
Do you have similar information stored about the Cydia users? How many users do you have?
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there any evidence that this data comes from the source they claim? And is there some way to validate these are real UDIDs?
Sure - me. Both my iOS devices are on this list - confirmed both by name and UDID match. However, I renamed my iPad around last November after I started using it more in public, yet its original name (easy to find if you search for my HN nick) is the name listed. EDIT: Oh, and fwiw, law-abiding natural born US citizen here. But who am I kidding - LEAs don't give a toss about that.
...assuming this has any connection to LEA
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This is very disturbing. How did the FBI gain access to all this information? It should be locked up in Apple. From what I see, the NCFTA in "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv" looks like it stands for the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance, which "functions as a conduit between private industry and law enforcement." ( http://www.ncfta.net/ ) Is Apple willingly sharing personal information with the FBI through th…
Doesn't a popular iOS developer have the same information? UDIDs, APNS tokens (for push notifications), basic demographic information is something a popular social app or game might have. 12 million is a pretty good number, though. edit: our iOS app has over 2 million of these type of device records (though we don't collect any demographic info, so just device ids, apns tokens, device names, device types -- standard…
And 12 million is the number claimed. Only 1 million is shown.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, are syou serious? I didnt know anyone could be _that_ delusional about Apple. You _really_ think Apple cares about privacy? They aren't "that kind of company"? Where the hell do you get the idea that Apple cares about the morality of their decisions? Could it be that you are a fanboy? Wait, I know the answer to that already. ..."shit HN says", right here.
"Could it be that you are a fanboy?" With the reply you've just sent and you seriously question if the parent is unbiased? Do you frankly consider yourself biased? Could it be that you're an anti-apple fanboy?
>Could it be that you're an anti-apple fanboy?
I indeed am, sometimes. And my post was biased, it was a bit of a bait. I can do the apple-fanboy as well though, if the topic calls for it.
On a more serious note though, I think Apple doesn't give a fuck about privacy- things like saving geolocations, the DRM in iTunes, unique device identifiers and stuff like that really makes it look like that at least.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is very disturbing. How did the FBI gain access to all this information? It should be locked up in Apple. From what I see, the NCFTA in "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv" looks like it stands for the National Cyber-Forensics & Training Alliance, which "functions as a conduit between private industry and law enforcement." ( http://www.ncfta.net/ ) Is Apple willingly sharing personal information with the FBI through th…
Couldn't an American request a FOIA for this to see what's the level of information gathering on iPhone users? Could EFF sue them for it or something to unveil more?
If there is indeed an ongoing investigation, FOIA would not apply (reasonably enough).