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Even without nukes it would be because the arabs in the region are bad at fighting. But with nukes it for sure is because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
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Israel is directly causing a mass starvation event in Gaza. Innocent children and women are dying every single day, and if nothing is done soon, scores more will in the near future. The commenter’s position is that the situation in Gaza is justifiable because Israel had to take action against Hamas. This is textbook collective punishment: causing suffering to a massive number of people due to the actions of a minorit…
It's indeed collective. Are you certain it's a punishment ?
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Israeli here, can't directly answer your question since I've lived in the US for 99% of my adult life, but I consider myself pro-Israel and resent the way Israel is currently/always being portrayed. I see the key problem as people removing context: Context for why the current situation could easily be different if Hamas acted/acts differently, and context for why there is no "just stop fighting" option that leaves Is…
I am very much of the opinion that Hamas should not be allowed to continued to exist for Israel's benefit and for Palestine's, but there is a lot of space in between "just stop fighting" and "genocide", and Israel is way closer to one side of that than I would prefer.
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They shouldn't but the harsh reality is that we all suffer for the mistakes of our leaders. Put bad people in power (Hamas) and everyone pays.
Should the US be nuked because ~51% voted for Trump (or Bush, Obama, Clinton, pick the one you hate)?
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People are arguing for an unconditional ceasefire because innocent people and children are literally starving to death. Many of the people arguing for ceasefire probably wouldn’t be so animated about it if that wasn’t the case, i.e. if Israel was conducting a legal war with targeted strikes. That isn’t the case.
Why are they calling for a ceasefire instead of for Hamas to surrender?
a ceasefire provides room for diplomacy that might lead to concessions from both sides for their atrocities, and thus might lead to peace and equality
we have seen in the west bank what surrender without a ceasefire or sustainable peace looks like, and it is very bad (see this article for an example)
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This is actually what the Nazis thought the Jews wanted - "if we dont exterminate them, theyll exterminate us". Their actions made sense in this context. It's one of several ways the zionists mirror the nazis.
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Im sure the Nazis told all sorts of stories like this one about the Jewish resistance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_baby_beheading_hoax
...before committing what they considered to be a "provoked" genocide.
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Is two-state solution possible? Just look at the map of the territories under palestinian control, they're bantustans. Israel/Palestine is factually one state, which simply doesn't accept half of its population as citizens. You could also say that "two-state solution" has been tried in 1948, but (for whatever reasons) didn't work out. So support for 2-state is just a form of delaying the inevitable. I am now firm bel…
>You could also say that "two-state solution" has been tried in 1948, but (for whatever reasons) didn't work out. The Arab world overwhelmingly rejected the UN Partition Plan in principle, which led directly to the 1948 Palestine war and the first Arab-Israeli war. Likewise, the signing of the Oslo Accords (and the rejection of those accords by Hamas, PIJ and other factions within the PLO) led directly to the Second…
Israel has never made a prolonged effort to build the mutual trust necessary to reach a negotiated settlement. During the Oslo Accords, the Israeli settler population nearly doubled.
One only need observe how Palestinian territory has shrunk decade after decade ever since 1948 to see that it is not merely Palestinian intransigence that has prevented peace.
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Is there a movement for native Americans sovereignty?
There should be. But presumably its harder since most of them were killed. Not sure how the colonization of America justifies other colonization's. Unless you think everyone is owed a 1 free genocide pass?
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> it seems to me that there is an equal amount of people cheering the settlers as there are people against what they're doing Speaking out of my ass here. But I’d guess most people don’t care. A minority cheers. A minority protests. Most go on with their lives.
No offense, but why would you speak about a topic you know little about?
And of course sometimes being deeply involved makes experts less objective and outsider perspective may bring some fresh air to the conversation.
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We have numerous first-hand reports from doctors of young children showing up at Gazan hospitals with gun shot injuries to the head. We have seen well-marked aid convoys blown up. Grutesque living skeleton children haunt our social media feeds. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch declared a genocide over a year and a half ago. A reply to OP's question that doesn't engage with these realities is, at best, dee…
> Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch declared a genocide over a year and a half ago Isn't that the point? They declared a genocide before Israel had even seriously responded to the attack. (Year and a half ago is Dec 2023, the attempted genocide by Palestinians was Oct 7, 2023.)