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Florida’s attorney general targets a restaurant over an LGBTQ Pride event

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Post by rastignack »

humphreygocart wrote: post #18
rastignack wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If your concern is truly with the children and protecting them from sexual abuse then you should focus your attention on people with conservative viewpoints. Here is a growing list of USA Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers: https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook Or simply search for "still not a drag queen". https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lemmy.world+still+not+a... Google's AI Ove…

One does not justify a wrong by another wrong. It’s a classic sophism.

I do not live in the US but did see some truly shocking and illegal behaviors at gay prides and drag themed events.

So I’m just waiting to get more information.

So my point is to trust the law. I don’t see how controversial it can be.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #8
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #7

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>decided to do some event searches And found what?

As per the article it sounds like they found performers where risque (but not obscene) outfits

Sounds like grey area. Maybe best to keep kids away?

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Post by ecocentrik »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #22
Rebelgecko wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As per the article it sounds like they found performers where risque (but not obscene) outfits

Sounds like grey area. Maybe best to keep kids away?

It's adult entertainment but there's no nudity or explicit imagery. Some parents feel comfortable taking their kids, other's don't in the same way that some parents feel comfortable taking their kids to concerts or R rated movies.

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Post by fallinghawks »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #19
burnt-resistor wrote: post #11

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First they came for the transgender juvenile athletes And I did not speak out Because I was not a transgender juvenile athlete (and there are probably only 100 in the whole country) - Then they came for the unofficial migrants (the paperwork is a civil federal matter) And I did not speak out Because I was not an unofficial migrant - Then they came for the unhoused Americans And I did not speak out Because I was not a…

* Transgender women juvenile athletes not being able to play with cisgender women (this issue doesn't even have a consensus one way or the other; the opinion roughly a 50/50 split afaik) * Immigrants breaking established laws (that you may or may not agree with, again a 50/50 split) * I have no idea what you're talking about the last one, feel free to link some articles for me to read Are you really comparing the abo…

https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arres...

Re: Florida’s attorney general targets a restaurant over an LGBTQ Pride event

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Post by shepherdjerred »

fallinghawks wrote: post #24
shepherdjerred wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Transgender women juvenile athletes not being able to play with cisgender women (this issue doesn't even have a consensus one way or the other; the opinion roughly a 50/50 split afaik) * Immigrants breaking established laws (that you may or may not agree with, again a 50/50 split) * I have no idea what you're talking about the last one, feel free to link some articles for me to read Are you really comparing the abo…

https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arres...

> Federal agents take an hour and a half, almost two, trying to figure out who I am

Absolutely terrible that this happened, but how in the world are you comparing this to rounding up people based on race/other traits and systemically killing them?

> “The individual with the same first, middle and last name bears a striking resemblance to the individual temporarily taken into custody by mistake.”

> Insisting that he looked like a violent criminal on their wanted list

> Shave your beard off so we won't mistake you again

stupid comment from the agent, but it sounds like they were explaining how they mixed the victim up with a criminal

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Post by 0dayz »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #25
fallinghawks wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arres...

> Federal agents take an hour and a half, almost two, trying to figure out who I am Absolutely terrible that this happened, but how in the world are you comparing this to rounding up people based on race/other traits and systemically killing them? > “The individual with the same first, middle and last name bears a striking resemblance to the individual temporarily taken into custody by mistake.” > Insisting that he l…

The quote implies not genocide but the mere act of silencing, if you read his past you know he strongly supported nazism, but challenged it only when it affected him which by that point it was too late they had absolute power.

Since the point is the escalation to have no hurdles.

Re: Florida’s attorney general targets a restaurant over an LGBTQ Pride event

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Post by krapp »

RajT88 wrote: post #17
fjfaase wrote: post #6

Combine this with the recent executive order to institutionize people with mental issues. Do not forget that the first people to be locked up in concentration camps in nazi Germany included communists, socialists, mentaly ill, homeless, and criminals.

Homosexuals too.

And don't forget that the Allies, who were just as homophobic as the Nazis and not much less antisemitic, didn't liberate homosexuals from prisons or concentration camps. They weren't recognized as victims of unjust oppression but criminals who got what they deserved.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

ecocentrik wrote: post #23
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like grey area. Maybe best to keep kids away?

It's adult entertainment but there's no nudity or explicit imagery. Some parents feel comfortable taking their kids, other's don't in the same way that some parents feel comfortable taking their kids to concerts or R rated movies.

Ah right… so… absolutely no reason to take kids to. GOT IT.

Re: Florida’s attorney general targets a restaurant over an LGBTQ Pride event

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Post by ecocentrik »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #28
ecocentrik wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's adult entertainment but there's no nudity or explicit imagery. Some parents feel comfortable taking their kids, other's don't in the same way that some parents feel comfortable taking their kids to concerts or R rated movies.

Ah right… so… absolutely no reason to take kids to. GOT IT.

Kids dress in drag when exploring comedy, theater, themselves... You might have a kid that's really into drag for any number of reasons and you might love them enough to want them to be the best version of themselves without imposing psychological trauma or making them feel like they need to hide parts of themselves from you. You still need to be a good parent, whatever that means to you but most parent don't want to limit their kids potential with distracting hang-ups. So I wouldn't say "absolutely no reason".

In typical DeSantis fashion, he's not signing any laws limiting this entertainment to "adults only" restricting access to anyone under the age of 18. And he's not passing laws to ban all drag shows across the state. This is political theater, in the same way that his two year presidential "grooming in schools" campaign resulted in zero arrests of teachers or librarians and the removal of completely unrelated books. And lets not forget that the panel to remove books was lead by a political opportunist that was later implicated in a sex scandal that included allegations of rape.

Re: Florida’s attorney general targets a restaurant over an LGBTQ Pride event

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

krapp wrote: post #27
RajT88 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homosexuals too.

And don't forget that the Allies, who were just as homophobic as the Nazis and not much less antisemitic, didn't liberate homosexuals from prisons or concentration camps. They weren't recognized as victims of unjust oppression but criminals who got what they deserved.

I'm not sure the point here. Is this a some counter-argument to the thesis that this is a bad thing?
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