Maybe it is because I am not from the US and from a country with a very different work culture, but this whole thing seems ridiculously narcissistic. A person with such a degree becoming my coworker or my boss seems like a nightmare. Even talking to someone who "made it through" such a degree is something I would rather avoid.
Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
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Re: Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
#22Maybe it is because I am not from the US and from a country with a very different work culture, but this whole thing seems ridiculously narcissistic. A person with such a degree becoming my coworker or my boss seems like a nightmare. Even talking to someone who "made it through" such a degree is something I would rather avoid.
this industry is rotten
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#23I've taken a few graduate courses at Stanford MS&E through their non degree program, and I give the experience three thumbs up.
Re: Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
#24I've met several of these students. It's like an MBA, but less social networking and more math. (And can be done co-term or in a year)
So does it add some value to someone who is already getting a bachelors in EE, CS or similar? Sure.
Would I put a history major with an MS&E degree in charge of anything significant? Probably not.
I suspect that the admissions rate of 7% is independent of coterms.
Re: Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
#25Maybe it is because I am not from the US and from a country with a very different work culture, but this whole thing seems ridiculously narcissistic. A person with such a degree becoming my coworker or my boss seems like a nightmare. Even talking to someone who "made it through" such a degree is something I would rather avoid.
this industry is rotten
Things rot from the head down, and Stanford arguably counts as the head.
Re: Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
#26Of the famous founders, over half were Stanford undergrads and therefore likely were "coterm" students. That means they just added a year to their degree and got this degree tacked on. That saves lots of time and money compared to going to Stanford as a master's student. There are a lot of things that are "worth it" if you don't have to move apartments/cities and get it for half the price — but which are not nearly a…
Can Stanford undergrads coterm in MS&E with any undergraduate major?
Yes, I knew people who cotermed in MS&E (and other masters programs) with a different undergrad major. I think you just need to make sure you fulfill whatever prereq courses they ask for but my knowledge is old at this point. I imagine you’d be fine going from any engineering major to MS&E, but if you were an English major who happened to take a bunch of math and physics that would probably work too.
Re: Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
#27> Management Science
It’s jarring and galling to see management and science put together in a way that’s suggestive of management being a science. It reeks of stolen valor.
Obligatory Feynman on “sciences”: https://youtu.be/tWr39Q9vBgo?si=SYTZSNA0G-RZDguA
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#28> Management Science It’s jarring and galling to see management and science put together in a way that’s suggestive of management being a science. It reeks of stolen valor. Obligatory Feynman on “sciences”: https://youtu.be/tWr39Q9vBgo?si=SYTZSNA0G-RZDguA
I think in this context Management Science is an older term that was synonymous with operations research. The flagship journal of Informs (the institute for operations research and management science) has the same name. Studying how to optimize thing, lots of statistics and math. Stanford was at the forefront of the field from George Danzig onwards. So not trying to make management a “science” in this case.
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#29I've taken a few graduate courses at Stanford MS&E through their non degree program, and I give the experience three thumbs up.
Yes some people actually go NDO->part-time-> full-time. It's rare but possible.
Re: Stanford’s Department of Management Science and Engineering
#30I met a guy who raised $250MM, and dropped out of the program. Spoiled.