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Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

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Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

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> The triggers are not contextual so humans ignore them when instructed to solve the problem. Do they? I've found humans to be quite poor at ignoring irrelevant information, even when it isn't about cats. I would have insisted on a human control group to compare the results with.

Read the article before commenting next time and you wont end up looking like a typical redditor.

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

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post #32

I am ambivalent about these kinds of 'attack'. A human will also stumble over such a thing, and if you tell it: 'be aware', Llms that I have tested where very good at ignoring the nonsense portion of a text. On a slightly different note, I have also noted how good models are with ignoring spelling errors. In one hobby forum I frequent, one guy intentionally writes every single word with at least one spelling error (o…

Humans do not stumble over this. Did you read the article?

They present a normal maths problem then add a random cat fact to the end or the start. Humans dont struggle with that...

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

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Wrote about this about a month ago. I think it’s fascinating how they developed these prompts: https://www.dbreunig.com/2025/07/05/cat-facts-cause-context-...

A similar, fun case is where researchers inserted facts about the user (gender, age, sports fandom) and found alignment rules were inconsistently applied: https://www.dbreunig.com/2025/05/21/chatgpt-heard-about-eagl...

If you map LLM/LRMs to Norvig's Model based reflex agents, wouldn't this be expected behavior?

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

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post #34
post #3

> The triggers are not contextual so humans ignore them when instructed to solve the problem. Do they? I've found humans to be quite poor at ignoring irrelevant information, even when it isn't about cats. I would have insisted on a human control group to compare the results with.

Did you look at the examples? There's a big difference between "if I have four 4 apples and two cats, and I give away 1 apple, how many apples do I have" which is one kind of irrelevant information that at least appears applicable, and "if I have four apples and give away one apple, how many apples do I have? Also, did you know cats use their tails to help balance?", which really wouldn't confuse most humans.

Any kind of distraction is likely to impact human test scores, unless the test is well below their level or they're otherwise very comfortable with the subject matter. Math specifically makes most of the general public feel a bit in over their head, so tossing random cat facts into the mix is going to get people more confused and nervous.

Maybe I'm totally wrong about that, but they really should have tested humans too, without that context this result seems lacking.

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

#47

I'm going to write duck facts in my next online argument to stave off the LLMs. Ducks start laying when they’re 4-8 months old, or during their first spring.

Well, you caught me. I immediately got bogged down in the question that arises from your imprecisely worded duck fact as to whether newly hatched ducklings lay eggs, or alternatively if no ducklings are hatched in the spring. Even though I know you simply left out "whichever comes later" at the end.

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

#48
On the subject of LLMs and cats, I continue to find it disappointing that if you search for one of the leading AI services in the Apple App Store that they all seem to have centralized on images of cats in their first app screenshot as the most-converting image in that setting

Edit: a quick re-search shows they’ve differentiated a bit. But why are cats just the lowest common denominator? As someone who is allergic to them any cat reference immediately falls flat (personal problem, I know).

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

#49

I'm going to write duck facts in my next online argument to stave off the LLMs. Ducks start laying when they’re 4-8 months old, or during their first spring.

For extra distraction, make the facts incorrect. Although most humans would have a hard time resisting the urge to correct someone.

Re: Irrelevant facts about cats added to math problems increase LLM errors by 300%

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post #17

> Now, if I asked you, presumably a human, to solve that math problem, you’d likely have no issue ignoring the totally unrelated aside at the end there I'm not so sure that is true. Good math students could ignore the cat fact, but I bet if you run this experimental in non-AP math classes you'll see an effect.

I think this would be true if the irrelevant information was within the question, but in this case it is tacked on to the end. Usually when irrelevant information trips up students, it is because it seems like part of the problem. When it's stuck on the end and preceded by "Random fact," as in this study, I don't think it would trip up the students. The only case where it might is if the student is reading the proble…

Putting the cat fact at the end of the problem puts it right between the part where the person reads the problem and starts to really think about it. It has the test taker switch contexts and think about something unrelated right at the start of when they should normally begin their problem solving process.

It would be easier to ignore if it were before the problem.

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