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Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by immibis »

reddalo wrote: post #180
joecool1029 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not always the case. Reddit sometimes locks the account until you verify it or reset the password by email. Happened with my email pointed at a .tk domain and I had to call freenom a bunch to get the domain back.

>Reddit sometimes locks the account until you verify it or reset the password by email. I still remember when you could create Reddit accounts without an email...

Since the last few years Reddit has basically just become Facebook 2.0 and it's not even worth using at all. They probably got acquired by private equity or something.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by immibis »

pixl97 wrote: post #256
jazzypants wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serving ads based on IP seems foolish when very, very few people have a static IP. I'm sure that a healthy minority of folks on HN do, but we're hardly representative of the general population.

Your IP is a lot more static than you give it credit for. It's not like the dialup era where you get a new IP each time. For example I have a dynamic IP on my cable modem, but it might as well be static as it only changes after there is a long term power outage. Also, it's likely if you're on a home connection most often, then you only have a limited pool of 32k or so IPs, which dramatically lowers the bits of inform…

European ISPs (at least some) change your IP every day, including IPv6, unless you opt out from the router's configuration page, as a privacy feature.

Apparently tracking data of Europeans has a much higher market price.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by immibis »

citizenpaul wrote: post #123
varenc wrote: post #46

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It does disrupt the user experience and clobber a site's own home page, but associating a persistent identity to a user is VERY valuable to sites, and normal sign up flows have a lot of friction. They probably figured it's worth the cost if it gets more users to login/create accounts. Its presence despite the drawbacks indicates a lot of people use this feature.

> associating a persistent identity to a user is VERY valuable My fear is that this is the real "AI" endgame. Flood the world with bots then become the defacto authority of "real" users.

Wasn't this literally Reddit's game plan?

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by aorth »

AnonC wrote: post #175
aorth wrote: post #142

> This is what Google calls the One Tap user experience. Fortunately, my web browser extension StopTheMadness Pro hides “Sign in with Google” banners. This sounds awesome. I like the author's classification of this and other anti-user website behaviors as "madness". Are there any similar add-ons for Firefox?

StopTheMadness provides browser extensions for Safari, Firefox and Chrome. But it’s a paid product AFAIK. I don’t know of similar Firefox extensions that do everything that this one does or allows one to do.

I have used the Don't Fuck With Paste extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/don-t-fuck-wi... in Firefox for a few years. Seems to work well when I need it (and when I remember to try it, as it needs enabling on a per-site basis).

For removing tracking query parameters from the URL I've used ClearURLs https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/clearurls/ for a few years.

uBlock Origin is still fully functional in Firefox as well so I guess I could find a way to block the "Sign in with Google" prompts somehow with a custom rule.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by meindnoch »

StrandedKitty wrote: post #45
lucb1e wrote: post #12

Does nobody find this intrusive when it appears on sites like pornhub? Of all places where I'd sign in with a Google account... holy heck, I was very surprised they chose to let Google do that nearly-fullscreen popup on their site upon every visit (since you visit in private tab, it's a fresh session every time) Even on reddit it annoys the heck out of me and I was very surprised they let this third party ruin the ex…

There's a big upside to Google One Tap. It makes users sign up for your product like crazy. I recently added it to a SaaS web app I'm working on, and the number of new sign ups went up 8x overnight. You don't necessarily have to create an account to use the minimal functionalty of our app, but after signing up you do get some perks, and we get a way to communicate with the user through email. So I think it can be ben…

>and we get a way to communicate with the user through email.

Don't call your spam "communication".

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by tsoukase »

StrandedKitty wrote: post #45
lucb1e wrote: post #12

Does nobody find this intrusive when it appears on sites like pornhub? Of all places where I'd sign in with a Google account... holy heck, I was very surprised they chose to let Google do that nearly-fullscreen popup on their site upon every visit (since you visit in private tab, it's a fresh session every time) Even on reddit it annoys the heck out of me and I was very surprised they let this third party ruin the ex…

There's a big upside to Google One Tap. It makes users sign up for your product like crazy. I recently added it to a SaaS web app I'm working on, and the number of new sign ups went up 8x overnight. You don't necessarily have to create an account to use the minimal functionalty of our app, but after signing up you do get some perks, and we get a way to communicate with the user through email. So I think it can be ben…

Last month I subscribed to DAZN TV through Google in order to watch a FIFA world football semifinal match. I deleted the third party allowance a week later. The final was free globally.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by Quin-hacker »

avel wrote: post #236
qrobit wrote: post #214

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FWIW, these uBlock Origin rules solve the ploblem: ||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe ##iframe[src^="http://accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe"] ##iframe[src^="https://accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe"] ##iframe[src^="//accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe"] ###credential_picker_container source: https://stackoverflow.com/a/78429389 . Last rule is from me since popup was invisible but still blocked the content underneath.

Good information, but you can already turn this off via the (quite hidden, I admit) setting that is mentioned in the article. That's a better way to turn this off completely, rather than patch it via a visual rule.

Brave browser does not have an option to turn it off but uBlock Origin custom filter works.

In the Brave community the only solution offered was an adblock filter: brave://adblock (custom filter) ||accounts.google.com/gsi/client$script,third-party

https://community.brave.com/t/annoying-login-with-google-pop...

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski »

dwedge wrote: post #147
godelski wrote: post #140

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> or Firefox Or just use Firefox because even using chromium is empowering Google to keep playing these games. Maybe you have a problem with Firefox (most people won't notice the difference) but is that problem worse that the problem you have with Google?

What if my problem is that it's funded by Google to the tune of a billion a year and spent a large part of the last two years trying to reposition itself as an ad company?

So when options are

  1) Google, an ad company
  2) Firefox, a company who Google gives money to
Your choice is #1, because #2 is funded by #1?

I'm honestly having a difficult time following this logic

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by nikisweeting »

nikisweeting wrote: post #268
Vinnl wrote: post #218

> What you may not realize if you use Safari or Firefox is that the banners are never displayed in Google Chrome! Ah, so that's why so many websites are OK with it - they probably just don't realise that it's there. > If the courts and antitrust regulators are reading—they probably won’t read my blog, but one can dream—this is yet another example of Google advantaging its own browser Chrome over other web browsers. A…

> the banners are never displayed in Google Chrome! this is demonstrably false, I can share dozens of screenshots of this popup appearing in Chrome despite all the options checked that are supposed to disable it.

Here's the worst one I've seen so far, it's showing one for Quora on the Chrome settings page! https://x.com/thesquashSH/status/1788553660357915017

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by mkipper »

dotancohen wrote: post #200
whynotmaybe wrote: post #41

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And we should also do something about website that consider you a "customer" when you've only started an order and entered your email but you've never pressed submit to complete the order.

Does that happen to you often?

I guess "often" is relative, but this happens to me pretty regularly.

I live in Canada, and it's not always obvious if an American company ships here or not. If the answer isn't trivial to find, I'll do this:

  1. Add something to the cart
  2. Start the checkout process as a guest
  3. Fill in the boxes that pop up during the checkout process
  4. Close the tab when I see that the country dropdown only has USA available
On most websites these days, you're asked for your email before your mailing address. And after I abort the checkout, I'll get an annoying "Psst...you forgot something in your cart" email a few hours later even though I never made an account or placed an order with my email.

Stores built with Shopify do this so consistently that I have to assume it's an out-of-the-box feature you need to opt out of.

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