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Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by chistev »

lostmsu wrote: post #23
lenerdenator wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "sexy" development stuff (FOSS web frameworks, LLMs, etc.) have a habit of happening on Macs. Not all of it, mind.

> "sexy" ... web frameworks, LLMs ... on Macs Oh my, I don't even know where to start on this one. If programming is sex, web programming is submission. Sure it sounds fun, but not for regular people. As for LLMs I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to run them on Macs and ditch my Nvidia graphics. The real reason is that Windows users are just not very loud.

>The real reason is that Windows users are just not very loud.

And why's that?

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by camdroidw »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #22

C# as popular and commonly used as java? Hmm either I'm woefully behind the times, most java devs aren't answering SO surveys, or the data is wrong. Then again the fact that C# is used in indie game dev probably gives it a serious boost in the 'evangelical user' category. It is a nice language, I just find java to be far more used in industry. Also, the editors? I'm sorry I've simply never gotten vsCode when jetbrain…

You seem so confident, do you have insights into the entire industry?

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by robenkleene »

I always jump straight to the IDE section because that's the most intersting to me https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#1-dev-id-es

A few notes:

- VS Code at #1 (of course) with 75%, Visual Studio at #2 with 29%

- Vim at 24% and Neovim at 14%, which seems pretty whopping to me (I wonder how much overlap is there, the survey is clearly "click all that apply")

- Cursor is 17.9%, wild

- Nano is 12.5%, lol

- Sublime Text is 10.5%, impressive given how much the IDE market has changed

- Zed is 7.3% I wonder if that's enough to be Ramen profitable for a small team? (Not familiar with what Zed is charging for these days)

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by Guid_NewGuid »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #22

C# as popular and commonly used as java? Hmm either I'm woefully behind the times, most java devs aren't answering SO surveys, or the data is wrong. Then again the fact that C# is used in indie game dev probably gives it a serious boost in the 'evangelical user' category. It is a nice language, I just find java to be far more used in industry. Also, the editors? I'm sorry I've simply never gotten vsCode when jetbrain…

On C# this could be your country/sample. As far as I remember, though this is from almost a decade ago now, C# is more popular than Java in the UK and Australia but Java comes out ahead in the US.

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by camdroidw »

jchw wrote: post #10
chistev wrote: post #4

How is it that Windows always dominate these Stack Overflow developer surveys, but people talk like Mac is the one that's ubiquitous among devs? And I hate these big accept cookies pop ups or whatever they are called that impede use of a website unless you accept. I couldn't find an option to reject all cookies.

Mac users talk like Mac is ubiquitous among whatever niche they're in. That's a trope as old as the Year of the Linux desktop.

I remember my "Linux friend" sent me an excited email when WSL was announced, signalling that somehow this meant that Microsoft has conceded. My response: "Finally the year of Linux on desktop". I think that was his last email ;-)

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by Sammi »

open592 wrote: post #24

For some context on demographics of this survey: I signed up for SO in about ~2011 and haven’t participated in SO since about 2015. But I have generally positive sentiment towards the survey so I do it every year. A lot of comments in this thread make the assumption that the only respondents are people who actively use SO but that isn’t true. I just get notified about the survey through email every year and respond.

Yeah those most likely to respond are those who find SO to be important and value it for whatever reason. And inversely those unlikely to respond are those who dislike SO. So the nature of SO itself will be reflected in the demographics of the survey responders.

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by fabian2k »

chistev wrote: post #4

How is it that Windows always dominate these Stack Overflow developer surveys, but people talk like Mac is the one that's ubiquitous among devs? And I hate these big accept cookies pop ups or whatever they are called that impede use of a website unless you accept. I couldn't find an option to reject all cookies.

Stack Overflow is a bubble, but Hacker News and other dev-focused online places are probably an even larger bubble. There's a lot of software developed that isn't particularly visible, and where the developers are not as active online as the ones here.

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by qsort »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #22

C# as popular and commonly used as java? Hmm either I'm woefully behind the times, most java devs aren't answering SO surveys, or the data is wrong. Then again the fact that C# is used in indie game dev probably gives it a serious boost in the 'evangelical user' category. It is a nice language, I just find java to be far more used in industry. Also, the editors? I'm sorry I've simply never gotten vsCode when jetbrain…

Probably not as popular, but C# is absolutely up there, even though it doesn't get a lot of mindshare. I work for a small firm that does consulting for enterprise customers and I see a lot of C# around.

Europe especially is basically MS's backyard.

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by unwise-exe »

biggestfan wrote: post #12

"49,000+" makes this the least responses the survey has gotten since 2016 ("over fifty thousand"), every year in between has been in the 65-100k range. Seems as though enthusiasm around SO has diminished significantly over the past year. My guess is that pro-AI devs have abandoned the site, and anti-AI devs are upset with their collaboration with AI companies.

The site got to be a pain to try to participate in long before modern AI came around.

Re: 2025 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by [deleted] »

chistev wrote: post #31
lostmsu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "sexy" ... web frameworks, LLMs ... on Macs Oh my, I don't even know where to start on this one. If programming is sex, web programming is submission. Sure it sounds fun, but not for regular people. As for LLMs I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to run them on Macs and ditch my Nvidia graphics. The real reason is that Windows users are just not very loud.

>The real reason is that Windows users are just not very loud. And why's that?

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