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Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by fifticon »

fifticon wrote: post #61

I am probably an uneducated cretin, but I have my preferences anyway. I am in Denmark, and in Denmark, you can get "sharpie pens" ( ) from the brand LYRECO, which I am very fond of, particularly of their high quality and durability. There is a personal story (for me at least..) regarding them. More than a decade ago, I worked for many years for a specific company, which had its good and bad sides. One major upside, w…

Note: I should probably call these 'felt tip pen' instead of sharpies. They are writing implements, not for kids drawing.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by synecdoche »

orlp wrote: post #60

My favorite pens are the Frixxion pens. You can erase them, and it actually works well.

I like them too, but they get empty quickly. Only a fraction of the cartridge is ink. The majority is plug gel and pressurised air. Apparently that’s required for it to function properly.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by asymmetric »

Along these lines, does anyone have recommendations for a nice (as in: overpriced and pretty, just like with OP) setup for drawing/sketching diagrams, as a programmer might need to to do map out a problem?

I'm thinking ~pencils~ (edit: felt-tip pens) in various colors, and good paper.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by _verandaguy »

asymmetric wrote: post #113

Along these lines, does anyone have recommendations for a nice (as in: overpriced and pretty, just like with OP) setup for drawing/sketching diagrams, as a programmer might need to to do map out a problem? I'm thinking ~pencils~ (edit: felt-tip pens) in various colors, and good paper.

I can't speak for variously-coloured pencils, but I've had a lot of success with a grid-ruled moleskine (I usually went for hardcover, but after accidentally ordering a soft cover, I'm warming up to it) and a Rotring 0.5mm mechanical pencil with Pentel 2H leads.

For colours, I tend to use the Bic 4-in-one coloured pen (the one with the blue bottom and white top), though I don't bring that out often.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by specialist »

mrob wrote: post #75
christophilus wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or if you occasionally spill coffee or any other liquid ever. I sometimes hand-write recipes. Fountain pens + sloppy kitchen meal prep are a bad combo.

You can get fountain pen inks that chemically react with cellulose for complete water resistance (there may still be a little smudging from unreacted ink washing off the paper). Noodler's Black is a famous example. I like this kind of ink, although it's not without its drawbacks, because cotton/rayon/other plant fiber clothing is also mostly cellulose and will be stained just as permanently.

> inks that chemically react with cellulose

I had no idea. Great tip; thanks.

I'm looking for alternatives to lamination for posting outdoor flyers & signs.

I just received some (alleged) weatherproof copier paper to experiment with.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQ3UNWL

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by bicx »

As a regular user of the Rotring 600, I recommend getting the EasyFlow 9000 refill for super smooth writing. It’s true that a ballpoint pen is just a vehicle for the refill, but the Rotring 600 is a pretty nice vehicle.

All that said, I reach for my Lamy Safari first. I also have a Pilot Vanishing Point as my “grail pen”, and while it’s a cool fountain pen, I don’t love the feel on paper.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by lb1lf »

_Wintermute wrote: post #74
christophilus wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or if you occasionally spill coffee or any other liquid ever. I sometimes hand-write recipes. Fountain pens + sloppy kitchen meal prep are a bad combo.

You can get some very permanent water-proof inks. Platinum Carbon black is my favourite.

De Atramentis, too, has a range of permanent inks which are quite fast-drying, too.

Happy customer for years.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by cosiiine »

bicx wrote: post #116

As a regular user of the Rotring 600, I recommend getting the EasyFlow 9000 refill for super smooth writing. It’s true that a ballpoint pen is just a vehicle for the refill, but the Rotring 600 is a pretty nice vehicle. All that said, I reach for my Lamy Safari first. I also have a Pilot Vanishing Point as my “grail pen”, and while it’s a cool fountain pen, I don’t love the feel on paper.

I too have gone with fountain pens as my every day pen. There's zero waste with a bottle of ink and a cartridge. I find that the variety of inks to be superior too.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by deltarholamda »

radicalbyte wrote: post #34
ktzar wrote: post #24

I still think that fountain pens are the pinnacle of writing stationery. One lasts generations and there's no consumables that need recycling or disposing of, if you use a rechargeable cartridge and buy ink bottles.

They're also horrible to use if you're left-handed and writing English or any other left-to-right language.

Perhaps a silly question, but would something like a Mahl stick help with left-handed writing? Painters and old-school draftsmen use them to keep their grubby mitts off the surface.

I suppose in today's public school you wouldn't be allowed one because it could conceivably be used as a weapon, but it would seem to be helpful.

Re: Rotring 600 Ballpoint Pen

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Post by porridgeraisin »

We have this "Nataraj Glow" ballpoint pen in India that you can get for 1 INR a pop. I bought a whole lot of them (100s) during school many years back and still use them. I lost pens regularly but it really didn't matter since I'd go back home to 99 more. Since school my pen usage has dropped significantly, but I still find them lying around the house strewn about here and there for when I need them. Love them, never needed anything else personally. The best thing about them is that they don't dry out or break or leak easily, so you can treat your pens with neglect, disrespect and be generally forgetful, e.g, losing the cap, putting it in the washing machine, etc, without paying for it in any way.

They are thrice as expensive (3 INR) now, but that's still throwaway money: https://www.amazon.in/Nataraj-Glow-Ball-Blue-Pack/dp/B0DF7YC...

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