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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by rixed »

zahlman wrote: post #361
churchill wrote: post #3

Does anyone still need testimonies like these to be convinced that Israel is systematically exterminating the Palestinians using kinetic force and starvation? We're past that point now. Making Gaza unlivable by carpet-bombing the strip, telegraphing mass murder in unambiguous statements at the highest levels of government, dehumanizing the Palestinians and silencing anyone who dares to speak up? I, for one, am thankf…

> I, for one, am thankful this hasn't been taken down like any article remotely critical of Israel. ????? I am generally not at all invested in this conflict and I cede that I have very little information about what is going on, and it's been like that for me for decades. But the information that is available to me, in the current context, from looking at HN, is: pro-Palestine and anti-Israeli sentiments are the norm…

If didn't downvote nor flag, but wanted to help you clarify your misunderstanding.

The vast majority of people across the world is in favour of the end of bombing and segregation, and against the regime that perpetuate it, if only because of empathy alone. And HN does indeed reflects this to some extent.

What the OP was alluding to when he said that pro palestinian view points were silenced is the more or less dissimulated support for the war and systematically misleading depiction of the situation in the mainstream news. To say nothing about the exceedingly harsh criminalization of dissent.

You might not be aware of it, if really you don't read anything beyond tech news, and I'm not going to blame you for that.

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by YZF »

protocolture wrote: post #482
YZF wrote: post #446

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I'll give you my honest opinion here and a criticism of Israeli government all at once. Israel should have moved the Palestinians civilians into Israel proper, e.g. the Negev. It should have created refugee camps for them there and provided them with all the support/aid while it went after Hamas. They'd be able to filter the people going in, make them surrender their weapons etc. No tunnels, no weapons caches, etc. I…

>I'll give you my honest opinion here and a criticism of Israeli government all at once. Israel should have moved the Palestinians civilians into Israel proper, e.g. the Negev. It should have created refugee camps for them there and provided them with all the support/aid while it went after Hamas. They'd be able to filter the people going in, make them surrender their weapons etc. No tunnels, no weapons caches, etc.…

The return of the so called 1948 refugees to Israel is never going to happen. Other wars from the same era had a lot more refugees and nobody returned anywhere.

Just like the Jewish refugees from Arab countries or Europe are not returning there either.

It the Palestinians are stuck in 1948 over the war they and the Arabs started and lost they're never going to get anywhere. They had a chance when Israel was established to be equal citizens and they decided not to take it. It might be tough, it might not be "just", but that clock is never turning back.

The sad thing is how Palestinians and Arabs treat those people. Everywhere else in the world refugees were taken in. But other than Jordan all Arab countries have decided to just keep those people as refugees for eternity. Including the Palestinians, and Gazans, who treat the refugees like second class people.

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Post by EvgeniyZh »

dang wrote: post #439
hughlomas wrote: post #386

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With respect, allowing political posts that clearly violate the HN guidelines will normalize such posts, incentivize them in the future due to karma, and attract the type of people that want to soapbox to the community.

This post doesn't violate the site guidelines, nor does having it on HN's frontpage. There's long precedent here, going back at least to 2008 ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 ). Here's a memorable (to me at least) case from 2012: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4922426 . If you want to understand how we think about and approach moderation of political stories on HN, probably the best set of explan…

Is it accidental or intentional that all political posts on this war are biased towards one of the sides? Do you think it is the best option?

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Post by lazyasciiart »

tayo42 wrote: post #490
ajb wrote: post #426

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This is actually a valid question*, although you probably won't like the answer. One side will concede in a war if there are no gains to be had, and conceding will stem the losses. So at a minimum, the side that wants a victorious peace has to credibly promise not to kill the women and children of the other side. At the moment, Israel is unable to credibly promise that, and it's difficult to see how in the short term…

Why? It would be terrible politically for Israel to keep attacking Palestine if Palestine and hamas agreed to peace. All of the ambiguity of right and wrong would be gone.

But Israel does that constantly, because they say the peace that Hamas agreed to doesn’t count. And the peace offer that Israel is waiting for is basically every male over 16 handed over for interrogation as Hamas members, with the chances of survival for actual Hamas leaders being about none.

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Post by croes »

dismalaf wrote: post #79

Criticizing Israel is in vogue but what's the solution? Gazans still hold Israeli hostages, Hamas has publicly stated that more civilian deaths helps their cause [1], they're still fighting, the UN refused to distribute aid because they were getting attacked [2], and Israel unilaterally pulling out of Gaza and leaving them to govern themselves is literally what led to October 7th... 1 - https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11…

If more civilian death help Hamas why does Israel‘s government help getting more dead civilians?

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Post by cauefcr »

mjevans wrote: post #423
carefulfungi wrote: post #258

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Then what does winning actually look like today? Sure. Run against these people and support their political opposition in the next election. But take the win on the short term and get food to Gaza.

Think about it from a logical perspective. Israel's real enemy won't stop and won't surrender until that country and it's people don't exist. They have taken the innocent civilian's of Gaza / Palistine / whatever you want to call the area hostage. They are also so ingrained into the region that resources are literally siphoned from humanitarian sites like hospitals into deep tunnels beneath; as just one example of re…

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Post by lazyasciiart »

imchillyb wrote: post #287

Removal of occupants from West Bank and Gaza, completely, was always the overall goal here. Israel doesn't seem to care overly much how this occurs, but they're making it happen. The goal is almost reached. There will be no Palestine. Egypt doesn't want the refugees. Jordan doesn't want the refugees. Qatar doesn't want the refugees. UAE doesn't want the refugees. Syria doesn't want the refugees. Lebanon doesn't want…

When there’s only 100,000 Palestinians left, Israel will announce that they accept a one-state solution.

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Post by rixed »

dismalaf wrote: post #79

Criticizing Israel is in vogue but what's the solution? Gazans still hold Israeli hostages, Hamas has publicly stated that more civilian deaths helps their cause [1], they're still fighting, the UN refused to distribute aid because they were getting attacked [2], and Israel unilaterally pulling out of Gaza and leaving them to govern themselves is literally what led to October 7th... 1 - https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11…

Are you seriously asking for what's the alternative to the bombing of tens of thousands of innocent people because some hostages were taken?

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

jahewson wrote: post #412
karim79 wrote: post #301

Related, Israeli human rights groups are coming forward as well. The following is just one report: https://www.npr.org/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5482881/israel-gaza-gen... EDIT: The BBC also reports on the same subject: https://search.app/1LP8A

I look up the first of those “human rights groups” and see that it’s explicitly a Palestine advocacy group with 38 employees. How’s this anywhere near objective?

PHRI was founded by an Israeli who served in the IDF, among other Israeli physicians.

There's nearly 200 citations in their report, citing a wide variety of Israeli and international media, medical journals, statements by the IDF, etc.

https://www.phr.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Genocide-i...

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Post by trustinmenowpls »

leyth wrote: post #479
YZF wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll give you my honest opinion here and a criticism of Israeli government all at once. Israel should have moved the Palestinians civilians into Israel proper, e.g. the Negev. It should have created refugee camps for them there and provided them with all the support/aid while it went after Hamas. They'd be able to filter the people going in, make them surrender their weapons etc. No tunnels, no weapons caches, etc. I…

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