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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by t-3 »

webstrand wrote: post #484
asddubs wrote: post #454

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it's worth noting that joe biden lied about trying to get a ceasefire, as we now know. So it's worth being skeptical, though of course I agree that ultimately what matters are results.

Do you have a source for your claim? The Biden administration did present a ceasefire plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire >. If not that, then I don't know enough about the situation to find what you're referring to.

https://internationalpolicy.org/publications/the-biden-admin...

The Biden administration also kept publically decrying the situation in Gaza while also promising full support and increasing weapon shipments to Israel. Saying one thing and doing the exact opposite over and over again.

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by lazyasciiart »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #260
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

It's good to be honest about all the horrors going on in the world, not just when they're committed by jewish people (I'm not jewish btw). For example there are recents vids of syrian muslims going door to door in villages in Syria and asking people if they are muslims or of the Druze faith: those answering they're from the Druze faith are shot on the spot. This qualify as war crimes too to me. But you don't get to r…

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Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #439
hughlomas wrote: post #386

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With respect, allowing political posts that clearly violate the HN guidelines will normalize such posts, incentivize them in the future due to karma, and attract the type of people that want to soapbox to the community.

This post doesn't violate the site guidelines, nor does having it on HN's frontpage. There's long precedent here, going back at least to 2008 ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 ). Here's a memorable (to me at least) case from 2012: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4922426 . If you want to understand how we think about and approach moderation of political stories on HN, probably the best set of explan…

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Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by t-3 »

tbrownaw wrote: post #305
kn0where wrote: post #239

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It’s fine to accept your mom or your neighbor changing their mind, but I think we should be skeptical of politicians changing their mind and consider what hidden, calculated motives they may have for changing it now, when they had plenty of information to reach the same conclusion over a year ago.

Would it help to think of them as partially being mirrors rather than people? Needing to win elections means they can't push too hard against whatever's popular just because they might not like it.

I would buy that argument if they followed the popular will more often than the "monied will". Most of the western ruling class having financial interests in weapon production through investments in the MIC drives government-level support for Israel's war on Gaza, while Palestine has had popular support for much longer than the current conflict.

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dang wrote: post #439
hughlomas wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With respect, allowing political posts that clearly violate the HN guidelines will normalize such posts, incentivize them in the future due to karma, and attract the type of people that want to soapbox to the community.

This post doesn't violate the site guidelines, nor does having it on HN's frontpage. There's long precedent here, going back at least to 2008 ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 ). Here's a memorable (to me at least) case from 2012: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4922426 . If you want to understand how we think about and approach moderation of political stories on HN, probably the best set of explan…

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Post by runarberg »

ars wrote: post #406
runarberg wrote: post #326

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The genocide is done in the name of the Zionist ideology, not Judaism, and Jewish people don‘t have to have any special opinion about it different from the rest of us. Zionists however have a lot to answer for, and they sure do need to find a lot of excuses if they want to keep their ideology. If a Jewish person condemns the Gaza genocide, that just means they are human and follow the news and empathize with victims…

You can't really use the word Zionist anymore because everyone has a completely different definition of what it means. So you're going to have to define your particular flavor before using it. To me virtually everyone on earth is a Zionist because it just means "having your own country", which is something almost everyone wants. I'm sure your definition is different.

To me Zionism is the settler colonial national project of Israel as a Jewish supremacy state on Palestinan lands.

If you support Israel as a Jewish supremacy state which denies civil rights to the Palestians that live there or were expelled (or descendants of expelled Palestinians) in 1947-1948, then you are a Zionist.

If you support a state called Israel which has equal rights for all its civilians (including Palestinians, and right of return for displaced Palestinians and their descendants, regardless of a whether you support a separate independent Palestine along the 1967 borders (as long as you recognize the right of return for the 1948 refugees to Israel), then you are not a Zionist.

I know Zionism comes in various flavors, including very extreme forms (such as Kahanism), and not all Zionists support the genocide done in their name. But as I understand it, no Zionist completely supports equal civil rights for all Palestinians, including the right of return and reparations for Palestinian refugees, because if they did support that, they wouldn’t be Zionists, at least not in my books.

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Post by orthogonal-wren »

petsfed wrote: post #246
dralley wrote: post #119

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On the other hand - when Israel struck the parking lot of that hospital a couple of weeks ago everyone was so confident that the IDF was lying when they said that there was a command bunker just underneath the entrance of the hospital. Not only did that end up being completely true, but the IDF killed Muhammad Sinwar in that strike. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/world/middleeast/gaza-hos...

You understand that you just said "they're the monsters for using human shields, but not us for shooting through the human shields", right? Make no mistake, its 100% a war crime to use civilians as human shields. But that doesn't magically absolve the IDF of also committing a war crime. And if they can't meet their military objectives without committing war crimes, maybe that's a sign. In any case, bombing a hospital…

Also the israeli military seems to be using "human shields" itself.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/24/middleeast/palestinians-h...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/23/idf-in...

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Post by crystal_revenge »

dismalaf wrote: post #79

Criticizing Israel is in vogue but what's the solution? Gazans still hold Israeli hostages, Hamas has publicly stated that more civilian deaths helps their cause [1], they're still fighting, the UN refused to distribute aid because they were getting attacked [2], and Israel unilaterally pulling out of Gaza and leaving them to govern themselves is literally what led to October 7th... 1 - https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11…

> Hamas has publicly stated that more civilian deaths helps their cause

The fact that Israel has no problem creating these civilian deaths is part of the problem. If you claim "human shields" you lose all credibly when you shoot nonetheless. It genuinely horrifying that you accept "well they made us kill all those kids".

This would be easy to see if you accepted the Palestinian people as, well, people.

> Again, what's your solution people?

Two states, stop holding a people in a perpetual refugee camp and you might be surprised and how much less they fight you. And, if you really have two states, then there's a framework for retaliation if it comes to that.

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

beepbopboopp wrote: post #492
droopyEyelids wrote: post #385

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I’m having trouble distilling the essence of your message in a way that leaves us with any common moral ground. Would you agree that “an eye for an eye” type justice is undesirable? Because it seems like you are advocating for genocide as a response to the oct attack, going well beyond “eye for an eye”!

Boiling it down to a catch phrase does it no justice. The war is being fought in a urban area, with an armed forced who refuses ceasefire and has repeatedly said it wont rest until all isrealis are dead. Again, my comment is, if you want them to stop fighting, what would you have them do next? Im not being rhetorical.

> refuses ceasefire and has repeatedly said it wont rest until all isrealis [sic] are dead

Unfortunately, this is true of both sides, and one side seems much closer to accomplishing its goal than the other side.

> what would you have them do

The same question was answered here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44718080

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Post by orthogonal-wren »

asdefghyk wrote: post #194
rightbyte wrote: post #167

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Diverted to where? It is one city.

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There seems to be no evidence for that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

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