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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by SR2Z »

ivape wrote: post #338
unwise-exe wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like a somewhat unlikely degree of international coordination.

It’s really not. France and England are suddenly realizing the genocide, and Israel has decided that now is the time aid gets to come in. Trump just admitted there is starvation in Gaza. It’s pretty coordinated. It’s an easy ask, “we just need 14 months of silence plus or minus, then whatever”.

The "suddenly" is likely because Trump took office and started making noises about paving Gaza over to build resorts. It was much easier for these countries to look the other way when the US was notionally holding Netanyahu's leash.

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Post by jahewson »

ivape wrote: post #347
YZF wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the same camp tbh. I think Israel should not be putting all of Gaza under siege. It's not moral. This will also not work because the Hamas doesn't care about Gazans. It's also not helping Israel (other than some internal politics between Netanyahu and his right wing extremists). Totally agree on people need to be able to change their minds based on new data and as the situation changes. I'm personally constant…

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The problem is not the narrative. The problem is Hamas.

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Post by myvoiceismypass »

kn0where wrote: post #239
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

It’s fine to accept your mom or your neighbor changing their mind, but I think we should be skeptical of politicians changing their mind and consider what hidden, calculated motives they may have for changing it now, when they had plenty of information to reach the same conclusion over a year ago.

Flip Flopping! Thank the FSM we have a stupid term for this, a critique that only seems to apply to people with a (D) next to their name.

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Post by myvoiceismypass »

davkan wrote: post #379
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

Architects of this tragedy like Anthony Blinken should absolutely not be given the opportunity to whitewash their involvement.

It’s lazy and disingenuous to “both sides” this mess.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

dismalaf wrote: post #79

Criticizing Israel is in vogue but what's the solution? Gazans still hold Israeli hostages, Hamas has publicly stated that more civilian deaths helps their cause [1], they're still fighting, the UN refused to distribute aid because they were getting attacked [2], and Israel unilaterally pulling out of Gaza and leaving them to govern themselves is literally what led to October 7th... 1 - https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11…

stop bombing, killing, and starving civilians for starters; the long-term solution is the two-state solution but you can't get there if the population is either dead or scattered (which is what Israel successfully did in 1948 and is now trying to finish it off)

So don't do this "what's the solution??" while tens of thousands are being killed and starved.

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Post by asdefghyk »

LightBug1 wrote: post #276
asdefghyk wrote: post #215

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This man is definitely not the only one who has come forward. At want point to do you actually take multiple witnesses and believe them? Many aid agencies and other sources on the ground have also verified many of the claims, when journalists can't (considering they've been banned from entering). Are all the aid agencies lying too? And sometimes, just sometimes, in this world of AI now, video evidence is accurate. Th…

How do you know that Hamas is not involved in these cases? You can not.

Also a high percentage of the said 50,000 killed would have to be Hamas terrorists.

Also, Hamas would be working overtime to make this new way of food distribution to fail.

Gaza people would not want to blame Hamas at ALL, since Hamas kills people who criticize them. This has happened in Past

In fact it is reported Hamas told Gaza people not to get food from the new distrubution places.

Hamas would also have to be guilty of genocide. In fact they have previously stated this in writing. Hamas is prepared to sacrifice Gaza people. Also Hamas committed genocide on October 7th

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Post by zahlman »

anonymars wrote: post #185
crystal_revenge wrote: post #17

As someone who went to US high school in the 90s, a good 1/3 of our curriculum seemed to be "never again" studies of the holocaust and other genocides throughout history. Which makes it completely incomprehensible to me that suddenly "don't talk about genocide" has become the basically law. What's worse is I actually feel openly saying "I don't support this genocide and I'm critical of the state committing it" is a r…

Probably not going to find this one encouraging: > A Columbia genocide scholar says she may leave over university’s new definition of antisemitism > ... Hirsch, the daughter of two Holocaust survivors, is now thinking of leaving the classroom altogether. https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-antisemitism-... -- Tangentially related, I never understood how the anti-BDS laws square with the first amendment ( h…

> Tangentially related, I never understood how the anti-BDS laws square with the first amendment

At my university, a portion of my dues went to funding BDS efforts (what expenses do they even have?) and I had no clear means to object to this. This was in Canada, but it seems to me perfectly fair to oppose that. That said:

> Most anti-BDS laws have taken one of two forms: contract-focused laws requiring government contractors to promise that they are not boycotting Israel; and investment-focused laws, mandating public investment funds to avoid entities boycotting Israel.

Substitute, for example, any domestic racial minority for "Israel"; does your opinion change?

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