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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by TrackerFF »

mjamil wrote: post #156

The UN definition is quoted here: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: - Killing members of the group; - Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; - Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction…

Almost 100 years later, and it is still being debated whether or not Holodomor was genocide.

And one could argue that Holodomor was less "intentional" than what is going on in Gaza now.

So, I don't think we'll get any official status on this anytime soon.

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Post by RajT88 »

ghufran_syed wrote: post #183
sedkodes wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This line of argument misrepresents both the nature of genocide and the current reality. First, genocide isn’t defined by whether all members of an ethnic group are being killed everywhere they live—it’s about intent and actions toward any part of the group “as such.” The fact that Palestinians exist elsewhere doesn’t negate what’s happening in Gaza. The UN and multiple human rights organizations have documented mass…

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Using your example:

>. so to out it in simpler terms, if a guy tries to kill me, i can defend myself, but NOT TOO MUCH - if the person wont stop fighting and I or someone else, say the police, has to use deadly force to stop him, then you claim this is “morally bankrupt”.

You can defend yourself, even killing your attacker. It would be morally bankrupt to then kill your attacker's entire family, or the neighborhood where he lived.

That is what is happening here.

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by Scramblejams »

arp242 wrote: post #224
Scramblejams wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

allowing no discussion to happen seems wrong Could it actually be right? It's hard for me to feel like these political flagfests make the rest of the site any better, while the rest of the site is what I find value in. If I want to witness mobs possessing massive standard deviations in knowledge and experience with the subject matter flamewarring each other, there are already a whole lot of places on the Internet I c…

The problem with this line of reasoning is that a few bad faith actors can kill any topic on the site simply by showing up and being unpleasant.

Seems like the existing mechanisms and moderation are designed to already handle this case to me. No?

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Post by runarberg »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #235
churchill wrote: post #3

Does anyone still need testimonies like these to be convinced that Israel is systematically exterminating the Palestinians using kinetic force and starvation? We're past that point now. Making Gaza unlivable by carpet-bombing the strip, telegraphing mass murder in unambiguous statements at the highest levels of government, dehumanizing the Palestinians and silencing anyone who dares to speak up? I, for one, am thankf…

Nit: Congo free state and Scramble for Africa were pretty different as I believe most Europeans didn’t realize and/or accept that sub Saharan Africans are humans at that point. They had an extremely different exposure to them (level and type) than we have today, and I don’t think we today can say whether we would have reacted differently to the Africans immediately post mass scale contact. Do people in the west today…

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Post by rany_ »

thenaturalist wrote: post #238
diebeforei485 wrote: post #237

Israel does not allow international journalists in and it's fairly obvious why.

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Yes, Israel is the one currently banning international journalists from entering Gaza. Hamas has no reason to.

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Post by LorenPechtel »

churchill wrote: post #16
johnisgood wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People form beliefs and make judgments based on things they do not know, it is nothing surprising[1]. I would recommend reading the history of Israel (vs. Palestine, especially). Yeah, Hamzah has been making lots of videos of IDF soldiers (and other Israelites) saying that they want all Palestinian children to die, and that their lives are worth more than Palestinians' lives. I am not surprised by any of this, the me…

I feel it's not going to last longer. With the advent of modern, mass media, young people across the West can see for themselves and they're taking a side. More specifically, they don't want their governments funding genocide with their taxes. This cannot be made to go away, which is why Zionist activists and their lackeys are pulling out all the stops: no one expected the outburst of disgust at Israel's actions woul…

The problem is the modern mass deception. We keep seeing "evidence" that doesn't support the claims.

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Post by carefulfungi »

kn0where wrote: post #239
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

It’s fine to accept your mom or your neighbor changing their mind, but I think we should be skeptical of politicians changing their mind and consider what hidden, calculated motives they may have for changing it now, when they had plenty of information to reach the same conclusion over a year ago.

Then what does winning actually look like today? Sure. Run against these people and support their political opposition in the next election. But take the win on the short term and get food to Gaza.

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Post by selimthegrim »

churchill wrote: post #3

Does anyone still need testimonies like these to be convinced that Israel is systematically exterminating the Palestinians using kinetic force and starvation? We're past that point now. Making Gaza unlivable by carpet-bombing the strip, telegraphing mass murder in unambiguous statements at the highest levels of government, dehumanizing the Palestinians and silencing anyone who dares to speak up? I, for one, am thankf…

It was Yeltsin, not Gorbachev

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Post by TacticalCoder »

zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

It's good to be honest about all the horrors going on in the world, not just when they're committed by jewish people (I'm not jewish btw).

For example there are recents vids of syrian muslims going door to door in villages in Syria and asking people if they are muslims or of the Druze faith: those answering they're from the Druze faith are shot on the spot.

This qualify as war crimes too to me.

But you don't get to read much about it in the mainstream media and many NGOs (not all) who are very active when it's about helping palestinians are keeping totally quiet on the subject too.

I see much more outrage about what's happening to palestinians then what's happening to Druze people.

Why is that? How comes it's so selective?

Similarly: the western world is constantly reminded of colonialism. But why are the hutis getting a free pass for the 800 000 tustis they genocided 25 years ago? How comes they're not constantly reminded of what they did? Those who committed these atrocities, including regular citizens, are still alive today.

And somehow we should pay because our great-great-great-great-grandfather was a colonialist?

It's that dual standard, that highly selective outrage, that is very hard to stomach for me.

BTW I don't recommend watching the vids of syrian muslims executing Druze people: it's hard.

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