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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by BobaFloutist »

crystal_revenge wrote: post #170
dang wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The downvotes and flagged comments in this post are clearly not "organic" FWIW the downvotes and flags in threads like this, including this thread, do seem largely organic to me, and well within the range of what one expects from a divisive and emotional topic. People often use words like "clearly" in making such descriptions (I don't mean to pick on you personally! countless users do this, from all sides of all is…

> a divisive and emotional topic. I strongly suspect that this "divisive" nature of the topic is precisely the illusion being created. That's exactly what I am challenging here. In my non-online life I've known many vaccine skeptics, climate skeptics, crypto enthusiasts, extreme right/left-wingers, people with complex view of trans issues, divisions on BLM topics, gun fanatics, gun abolitionists etc, etc. But the opi…

>outside of Zionists

Well that sure seems a bit tautological.

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Post by slibhb »

danbruc wrote: post #202

»If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?« David Ben-Gurion, First Prim…

Palestinians have been offered a state 5 times starting in 1937. They rejected each offer.

They don't want a state of their own; they want to conquer Israel.

I don't see a solution. Maybe establish a somewhat repressive non-democratic Palestinian state?

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Post by Hikikomori »

YZF wrote: post #189
Hikikomori wrote: post #80

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Hasbara means explaining in Hebrew. So guilty as charged of trying to explain what's going on. I'm not echoing any sort of official message. What people here don't understand is that there is a war going on. In wars people get killed. The war and the condition of the Palestinian population is 100% the responsibility of their government, Hamas, that continues fighting and holding Israeli hostages. Israel can not and w…

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Post by arp242 »

Scramblejams wrote: post #173
dang wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The downvotes and flagged comments in this post are clearly not "organic" FWIW the downvotes and flags in threads like this, including this thread, do seem largely organic to me, and well within the range of what one expects from a divisive and emotional topic. People often use words like "clearly" in making such descriptions (I don't mean to pick on you personally! countless users do this, from all sides of all is…

allowing no discussion to happen seems wrong Could it actually be right? It's hard for me to feel like these political flagfests make the rest of the site any better, while the rest of the site is what I find value in. If I want to witness mobs possessing massive standard deviations in knowledge and experience with the subject matter flamewarring each other, there are already a whole lot of places on the Internet I c…

The problem with this line of reasoning is that a few bad faith actors can kill any topic on the site simply by showing up and being unpleasant.

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Post by YZF »

antonvs wrote: post #90
pstuart wrote: post #30

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The problem is simple: conflicts like this are made into binary good vs evil arguments where the other side is bad and your side is good. The reality is that both sides have legitimate concerns, and likewise, are doing very bad things. Intelligent and caring people get sucked up into this and can only echo their hate for the other side. The exciting world of tech is designed to amplify the opposition but not to find…

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The Oct 7th attack on Israel is textbook genocide. Hamas wishes to kill all Jews in Israel. It indiscriminately slaughtered civilians. And worse:

https://thedinahproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/The-D...

Israel however does not wish to kill all Palestinians. It is not trying to kill all Palestinians in Gaza. It is not killing all Palestinian Arabs who are Israeli citizens. It is not trying to kill all Palestinians in the "West Bank" or in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority.

Killing people in a war is not genocide. The people in Gaza are provably not targeted (as a group) because they are Palestinians. The attacks on Gaza are directly related to the war that started by Hamas' attack (or we can even say attacks including previous attacks since they took power in Gaza). Each bomb that drops in Gaza has a military objective.

You can prove this pretty easily with a thought experiment, just have Hamas (and the other Jihadi organizations in Gaza) surrender, lay down their arms, and we'll see if any more Gaza civilians are killed.

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Post by yodsanklai »

Aloisius wrote: post #184
xyst wrote: post #117

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There are 194 other countries not lifting a finger either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Isra...

The US is a direct enabler, not a passive observer.

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Post by jahewson »

throwawaybob420 wrote: post #188
Guid_NewGuid wrote: post #116

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Yes, never again is right now and I am afraid to even say that under my real name because it would put my job at risk. Watching a redux of the Warsaw Ghetto being livestreamed, watching children starving to death because of state military decisions, watching 500 pounder bombs being dropped on seaside cafes and ambulance medics being murdered. Never again is right now and I'm doing this, bitching pseudonymously. It is…

That’s the part that sickens me, if anyone says anything about the genocide, your livelihood is at risk. It’s disgusting, and it works to prevent people from saying anything publicly.

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Post by Maxious »

asdefghyk wrote: post #212
calmbonsai wrote: post #11

IDF fired on World Central Kitchen workers April of 2024 so this, sadly, isn't surprising. At least more and more video is, finally, coming out vividly capturing these atrocities.

Need to be careful here ... apparently Hamas in control of convey .... ".... At the WCK Welcome Centre, locally-contracted security personnel got on and into the trucks and the convoy continued the journey to the warehouse. As the trucks moved away from the Welcome Centre, one locallycontracted security person on top of the trailer of the third truck fired his weapon into the air. This was clearly visible in the UAV…

> The identification of the armed individuals on the convoy and near/in the WCK vehicles had not been done in a professional manner. The mindset involved in the decision making was wrong.

> It was inferred a number of times that not only had the gunmen associated with the WCK aid convoy exhibited tactics similar to Hamas, but that in fact ‘they were Hamas’.

> Head FFAM confirmed that only the video feed being used by the UAV operators was used to identify the gunmen as Hamas.

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Post by thenaturalist »

sva_ wrote: post #210

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Many of them not much older than two weeks.

This reeks like a massive failure of any content moderation process.

dang, what is up with factual, on topic comments being flagged en masse within two minutes of writing?

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