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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Hamas is a terrorist organisation, the IDF is a state. Of course the state should be held to a higher standard than a terrorist organisation, this is not me excusing what Hamas have done, but if you start justifying a state's actions with "a terrorist organisation has done the same" where does that end? US state actors hijacking and crashing a Russian passenger jet into the Kremlin?

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The problem is simple: conflicts like this are made into binary good vs evil arguments where the other side is bad and your side is good. The reality is that both sides have legitimate concerns, and likewise, are doing very bad things. Intelligent and caring people get sucked up into this and can only echo their hate for the other side. The exciting world of tech is designed to amplify the opposition but not to find…

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There would be less scepticism if there weren't numerous examples of falsified incidents in the past. Nonetheless, the point of "the boy who cried wolf" is not "wolves don't exist". Both sides have been caught lying many, many times but that doesn't mean you can just dismiss every claim.

Many have taken their cameras and recorded their children dying and families dying. And when you meet them, they will show you their dead on their phones like it is an injury of their hand. Quite surreal and I am out of words to explain it.

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If someone came, stole your land, raped your women, killed the children, and occupied town after town, and then forced you and rest of the survivors into a town, built walls around you, imprisoned the whole city, didn't let you do anything, brought the most racist thing upon you, silenced your cried for help in the world, payed all media to portray you as animals and dehumanize you, and all of your acts of civil conduct by one of your friends Arafat didn't result in anything, then don't get angry like Hamas and don't play the only cards remaining for you since every thing else literally is taken away. Just stay so that they can kill all of you and erase you from the face of planet. (I'm not supporting Hamas, but do you see how this is made by a world that sees the whole Palestine as something to be removed? erased?)

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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As someone who went to US high school in the 90s, a good 1/3 of our curriculum seemed to be "never again" studies of the holocaust and other genocides throughout history. Which makes it completely incomprehensible to me that suddenly "don't talk about genocide" has become the basically law. What's worse is I actually feel openly saying "I don't support this genocide and I'm critical of the state committing it" is a r…

The problem is simple: conflicts like this are made into binary good vs evil arguments where the other side is bad and your side is good. The reality is that both sides have legitimate concerns, and likewise, are doing very bad things. Intelligent and caring people get sucked up into this and can only echo their hate for the other side. The exciting world of tech is designed to amplify the opposition but not to find…

You are just heading into another set of abstractions. A third neutral path that still misses the most important factor. That human life and dignity is the overwhelming priority. A legitimate" concern is a very bad reason for death, injury, trauma and hunger.

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As someone who went to US high school in the 90s, a good 1/3 of our curriculum seemed to be "never again" studies of the holocaust and other genocides throughout history. Which makes it completely incomprehensible to me that suddenly "don't talk about genocide" has become the basically law. What's worse is I actually feel openly saying "I don't support this genocide and I'm critical of the state committing it" is a r…

> The downvotes and flagged comments in this post are clearly not "organic"

FWIW the downvotes and flags in threads like this, including this thread, do seem largely organic to me, and well within the range of what one expects from a divisive and emotional topic.

People often use words like "clearly" in making such descriptions (I don't mean to pick on you personally! countless users do this, from all sides of all issues), but actually there's nothing so clear. Mostly what happens is that people have perceptions based on their strong feelings and then call those perceptions "clear" because their feelings are strong.

We do occasionally turn off flags in order to allow a discussion to happen because allowing no discussion to happen seems wrong. I've posted lots of explanations of how we approach this in the past (e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...)

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Hamas is a terrorist organisation, the IDF is a state. Of course the state should be held to a higher standard than a terrorist organisation, this is not me excusing what Hamas have done, but if you start justifying a state's actions with "a terrorist organisation has done the same" where does that end? US state actors hijacking and crashing a Russian passenger jet into the Kremlin?

elected by the people of gaza with support from the population.
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