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Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

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Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#11

The angry, insecure and unwell are over-represented in technical forums. I find I am typically only browsing this site when I am not ready to present the best version of myself (tired, bored, demotivated). I don't know how we end the cycle of cruelty in our industry.

"The angry, insecure and unwell are over-represented in technical forums." no, they're over-represented on all forums

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#12

While the developer's decision must be respected, I don't really understand it. Why not simply ban the troll instead of engaging with them in any way? I wouldn't want to give a troll any power or influence at all.

It's still effort. If you have someone shitting up your PRs with personal complaints you can either put the effort in to squelch the opponent or you can just walk away. For unpaid FOSS work there is often very little to be gained except for a bit of self satisfaction and kudos from the community.

It's easy to walk away from an ungrateful community if you don't have gold in your pockets to soften the blows.

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#13

While the developer's decision must be respected, I don't really understand it. Why not simply ban the troll instead of engaging with them in any way? I wouldn't want to give a troll any power or influence at all.

Based on the thread, they were doxxed by that troll.

Defamation lawsuit sounds like a perfectly valid avenue if that is the case.

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#14

The angry, insecure and unwell are over-represented in technical forums. I find I am typically only browsing this site when I am not ready to present the best version of myself (tired, bored, demotivated). I don't know how we end the cycle of cruelty in our industry.

"The angry, insecure and unwell are over-represented in technical forums." no, they're over-represented on all forums

This could be more agreeably written as “yes, and”. You are not disagreeing with his statement.

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on the thread, they were doxxed by that troll.

Defamation lawsuit sounds like a perfectly valid avenue if that is the case.

Lawyers take effort, time, and difficulty.

It's much easier to shut down a project instead.

Alternatively, people can instead choose to NOT be dicks to people who are altruistically developing stuff for no compensation and the net benefit of our industry.

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#17

While the developer's decision must be respected, I don't really understand it. Why not simply ban the troll instead of engaging with them in any way? I wouldn't want to give a troll any power or influence at all.

It's easier to walk away sometimes, it takes more effort, more mental energy, more stress to deal with things.

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#18
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I think it is a bid problematic that anybody can create an account on github and open issues there (if enabled). No "professional", paid software would allow ordinary users to communicate directly with the programmer. Or allow outsiders to post comments on their products website. Just moving discussions to irc would already filter a lot of spam. As a last resort you could require some kind of proof that you are a mai…

>I think it is a bid problematic that anybody can create an account on github and open issues there (if enabled).

I think it's a bit problematic to use GitHub in 2025 if you are doing F/OSS

Re: Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over antivirus tool

#20

The angry, insecure and unwell are over-represented in technical forums. I find I am typically only browsing this site when I am not ready to present the best version of myself (tired, bored, demotivated). I don't know how we end the cycle of cruelty in our industry.

> I don't know how we end the cycle of cruelty in our industry.

Actually have consequences for it? When industry leaders like Linus act like assholes constantly but are given cover because they produce something so valuable, will always produce a situation where being empathetic becomes a social proxy for being weak or untalented

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