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Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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This might be a dumb question, but is it possible for the UK government to ban VPN usage within the UK?

No they can't. Myself, and quite a few other people, need it for work.

Do you think that will stop them? They tried to ban encryption for petes sake.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Bourgeois love to divide the working class, typical divide and conquer. Indigenous worker vs imported worker, men vs women, queer vs straight, old vs young, car user vs bicycle rider. This is important because it weakens existing solidarities and prevent the emergence of class consciousness. It's part of their modus operandi and has been for centuries, only now they master it thanks to algorithms and machine lear…

This view (“the Bourgeois’, etc.) seems to imply there’s a group of very clever manipulators somewhere, overtly planning and executing this (presumably in a dark room with armchairs and cigars). But I just can’t imagine this, in the UK’s example. What I see instead is the other side of Hanlon’s razor —incompetence— coupled with a political class riven with pockets of self-interest, and very few seemingly with an inte…

Have you read the Telegraph or pretty much any UK media lately?

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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seems to be working in China. While many Chinese use VPN software, many don't bother with the friction and are fine just using rednote and friends.

Leaving the complexity of attempting to circumvent the great firewall aside, VPN isn't free. Not many are willing to drop £60+/year just to avoid identifying yourself on PH. Easier to find a website that doesn't enforce it.

In the UK case, TOR seems to happily get around these restrictions for free (I gave it a quick check yesterday). I'd imagine that there might be some kind of crackdown on TOR exit nodes in the future though

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Basically every new law, piece of news or media I see coming from the UK paints a picture of a beat-down, cynical & scared society that's complacent to or in support of increasing surveillance and control by the government. Like maybe Adolescence or basically any mention of the NHS. The crimes they cite like child grooming or terrorism/hate being incited sound pretty terrible too, but I wonder why the UK specifically…

While I appreciate the concern, it's worth pointing out that 30 or so years ago "government should mandate id checks for harmful content" was not some radical dystopian notion.

The UK was also one of the first nations to ban indoor smoking and in cars with kids. I think this is very much in that vein (politically).

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Basically every new law, piece of news or media I see coming from the UK paints a picture of a beat-down, cynical & scared society that's complacent to or in support of increasing surveillance and control by the government. Like maybe Adolescence or basically any mention of the NHS. The crimes they cite like child grooming or terrorism/hate being incited sound pretty terrible too, but I wonder why the UK specifically…

The UK is becoming increasingly authoritarian in ways that feel increasingly antagonistic to the majority of the population, regardless of political party. Taxes are rising (with tax take falling), crimes are going unchecked, just mentioning increased immigration gets a lot of people's backs up, but as GDP per capita continues to stall and even fall, the pressure it puts on services is a factor for many. And we're se…

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Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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The safety rules are also being used to block content about protests in the UK. How convenient for them. https://freespeechunion.org/protest-footage-blocked-as-onlin...

The fact X flags protest videos as adult content is not entirely the fault of the UK government.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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I really don't understand why it wasn't just a requirement for Apple and Google to include a client side filter. Parent sets up the phone and it's enabled by default. Much simpler option for everyone involved.

Because reinforcing a natural monopoly is bad? The law is specifically written to allow a range of different business models etc.

Also, because desktops/different browsers are a thing?

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leaving the complexity of attempting to circumvent the great firewall aside, VPN isn't free. Not many are willing to drop £60+/year just to avoid identifying yourself on PH. Easier to find a website that doesn't enforce it.

In the UK case, TOR seems to happily get around these restrictions for free (I gave it a quick check yesterday). I'd imagine that there might be some kind of crackdown on TOR exit nodes in the future though

Tor is not an ideal browsing experience.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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post #15

I really don't understand why it wasn't just a requirement for Apple and Google to include a client side filter. Parent sets up the phone and it's enabled by default. Much simpler option for everyone involved.

> it wasn't just a requirement for Apple and Google to include a client side filter

I am old enough to remember when Apple proposed client side filtering and everyone absolutely lost their shit.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Basically every new law, piece of news or media I see coming from the UK paints a picture of a beat-down, cynical & scared society that's complacent to or in support of increasing surveillance and control by the government. Like maybe Adolescence or basically any mention of the NHS. The crimes they cite like child grooming or terrorism/hate being incited sound pretty terrible too, but I wonder why the UK specifically…

Don't believe the things that you read. Our newspapers have been openly biased for centuries, and there's some very shoddy journalism at times. See, for example:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44623091

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