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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by genghisjahn »

randallsquared wrote: post #84
genghisjahn wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any other companies I should worry about for tracking?

Yes.

Yeah, that was my point. I'm not sure what's so breath taking about what ByteDance is doing. I'm not a fan. But, with Meta, Google, Microsoft and I'll throw on Amazon, a huge chunk of the general public's web activity is tracked. Everywhere. All the time. The people have spoken, they are okay with being tracked. I've yet to talk with a non-technical person who was shocked that their online activity was tracked. They know it is. They assume it is. ByteDance's range of telemetry does not matter to them. Just wanna keep on tiktok'ing. Why does telemetry sent to Bytedance matter? Is it a China thing? I'm not concerned about a data profile on me in China. I'm concerned about the ones here in the US. I'll stop. I'm not sure I have a coherent point.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by adam_hn »

cuuupid wrote: post #199
rvnx wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are implying at the end that it is better that your secrets (“telemetry”) go to your local agencies and to possible relatives or family who work on Gmail, Uber, etc ?

Yes, naturally I trust my own elected government, or possible relatives/family, far more than I trust a foreign adversary

I'm sorry but why? Your government can use this data to actually hurt you and put you on the no-fly list, or even put you in prison.

But a foreign government is limited to what it can do to you if you are not a very high-value target.

So I try as much as possible to use software and services from a non-friendly government because this is the highest guarantee that my data will not be used against me in the future.

And since we can all agree that any data that is collected will end up with the government some way or another. Using forging software is the only real guarantee.

Unless the software is open source and its server is self-hosted, it should be considered Spyware.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by pigbearpig »

cchance wrote: post #218

Am i the only one that finds System Information: Hardware specs, OS details, architecture Usage Patterns: Active time, session duration, feature usage Performance Metrics: Response times, resource consumption Unique Identifiers: Machine ID, user ID, device fingerprints Workspace Details: Project information, file paths (obfuscated) Not to really bad that obtrusive? Like i don't really see anything there that i'd be o…

Seems like a lot, especially after checking "disable telemetry"

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Post by dontdoxxme »

cchance wrote: post #218

Am i the only one that finds System Information: Hardware specs, OS details, architecture Usage Patterns: Active time, session duration, feature usage Performance Metrics: Response times, resource consumption Unique Identifiers: Machine ID, user ID, device fingerprints Workspace Details: Project information, file paths (obfuscated) Not to really bad that obtrusive? Like i don't really see anything there that i'd be o…

"file paths (obfuscated)" -- this is likely enough for them to work out who the user is, if they work on open source software. They get granular timing data and the files the user has edited, which they could match with open source PRs in their analytics pipeline.

I suspect they aren't actually doing that, but the GDPR cares not what you're doing with the data, but what is possible with it, hence why any identifier (even "obfuscated") which could lead back to a user is considered PII.

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Post by newlisp »

bobajeff wrote: post #201
barkingcat wrote: post #105

There's also the Eclipse VScode-look-alike-reimplementation called TheiaIDE https://theia-ide.org/ It was rough a few years ago, but nowadays it's pretty nice. TI rebuilt their Code Composer Studio using Theia so it does have some larger users. It has LSP support and the same Monaco editor backend - which is all I need. It's VSCode-with-an-Eclipse-feel to it - which might or might not be your cup of tea, but it's an…

The feature that keeps me from moving off of vscode is their markdown support. In particular the ability to drag and drop to insert links to files and images *. Surprisingly, no other editor does this even though I use it all the time. * https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/languages/markdown#_inser...

It's also a good alternative to Obisdian if you don't need smartphone support.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by macintux »

cchance wrote: post #218

Am i the only one that finds System Information: Hardware specs, OS details, architecture Usage Patterns: Active time, session duration, feature usage Performance Metrics: Response times, resource consumption Unique Identifiers: Machine ID, user ID, device fingerprints Workspace Details: Project information, file paths (obfuscated) Not to really bad that obtrusive? Like i don't really see anything there that i'd be o…

I always want the choice to be mine.

I was interested in learning Dart until the installer told me Google would be collecting telemetry. For a programming language. I’ve never looked at it again.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by user3939382 »

cchance wrote: post #218

Am i the only one that finds System Information: Hardware specs, OS details, architecture Usage Patterns: Active time, session duration, feature usage Performance Metrics: Response times, resource consumption Unique Identifiers: Machine ID, user ID, device fingerprints Workspace Details: Project information, file paths (obfuscated) Not to really bad that obtrusive? Like i don't really see anything there that i'd be o…

I don't want any program on my computer including the OS to make any network calls whatsoever unless they're directly associated with executing GUI/CLI interactions I have currently undertaken as the user. Any exception should be opt-in. IMHO the entire Overton window of these remote communications is in the wrong place.

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Post by 1986 »

bigprof wrote: post #197
rvnx wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mhhh it is not really about “nothing to hide”, it was more that if you use niche services targeted at privacy, it puts a big target on you. Like the Casio watches, travelling to Syria, using Tor, Protonmail, etc… When it is better in reality to have a regular watch, a Gmail with encrypted .zip files or whatever, etc. It does not mean you are a criminal if you have that Casio watch, but if you have this, plus encrypte…

What flag does using a Casio watch raise? I have a G Shock that i love though i don't wear it as often nowadays.

It could put you in Guantanamo Bay: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W#Usage_in_terrori...

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by [deleted] »

fHr wrote: post #157
barkingcat wrote: post #105

There's also the Eclipse VScode-look-alike-reimplementation called TheiaIDE https://theia-ide.org/ It was rough a few years ago, but nowadays it's pretty nice. TI rebuilt their Code Composer Studio using Theia so it does have some larger users. It has LSP support and the same Monaco editor backend - which is all I need. It's VSCode-with-an-Eclipse-feel to it - which might or might not be your cup of tea, but it's an…

eclipse still is alive holy shit

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