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Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by 3eb7988a1663 »

nosrepa wrote: post #80
efitz wrote: post #72

Two thoughts: 1. Try using pi-hole to block those particular endpoints via making DNS resolution fail; see if it still works if it can’t access the telemetry endpoints. 2. Their ridiculous tracking, disregard of the user preference to not send telemetry, and behavior on the Discord when you mentioned tracking says everything you need to know about the company. You cannot change them. If you don’t want to be tracked,…

Why use pihole? Most OSes have a hosts file you can edit if you're just blocking one domain.

When the nefarious actor is already inside the house, who knows to what lengths they will go to circumvent the protections? External network blocker is more straightforward (packets go in, packets go out), so easier to ensure that there is nothing funny happening.

On Apple devices, first-party applications get to circumvent LittleSnitch-like filtering. Presumably harder to hide this kind of activity on Linux, but then you need to have the expertise to be aware of the gaps. Docker still punches through your firewall configuration.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by eddythompson80 »

msgodel wrote: post #24
phoronixrly wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling out leople who trust software from ByteDance, and not calling out people who trust software by Microsoft (i.e. VSCode) is a bit hypocritic. Both are faceless corps that produce unethical software.

Don't forget that the remote editing feature in VSCode has you install non-free binaries on the remote machines. It's not like netdir where it just wraps openssh. I'm always surprised when corporate IT departments allow that given what's not allowed these days.

No? The non-free binary is the client not the server. There are free implementations of the client for Code OSS.

The server installed on the remote machine is part of vscode itself called the REH (remote extension host). It’s the core of the editor running in headless mode on the server.

Here is an example open source implementation of the non-free binary client (it’s a 4 files that call various editor APIs) https://github.com/xaberus/vscode-remote-oss

This is REH entry (the binary installed on the remote machine) https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/main/src/vs/server/...

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by cluckindan »

nosrepa wrote: post #80
efitz wrote: post #72

Two thoughts: 1. Try using pi-hole to block those particular endpoints via making DNS resolution fail; see if it still works if it can’t access the telemetry endpoints. 2. Their ridiculous tracking, disregard of the user preference to not send telemetry, and behavior on the Discord when you mentioned tracking says everything you need to know about the company. You cannot change them. If you don’t want to be tracked,…

Why use pihole? Most OSes have a hosts file you can edit if you're just blocking one domain.

Set up your router to offer DNS through pihole and everything in your network now has tracking and ads blocked, even the wifi dishwasher.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by dotancohen »

dmitrygr wrote: post #52

I remind you, again, that vi, gcc, as, ld, and make have no telemetry, launch few (if any) processes, do not need GB of RAM, and work well.

I am a die hard VIM user. VIM is a text editor, not an IDE. You can I many D tools into it's E, but it remains a text editor with disparate tools.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by lynndotpy »

marksomnian wrote: post #4
circuit10 wrote: post #3

Is it just me or does the formatting of this feel like ChatGPT (numbered lists, "Key Takeaways", and just the general phrasing of things)? It's not necessarily an issue if you checked over it properly but if you did use it then it might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise (or maybe you just have a similar writing style)

> might be good to mention that for transparency, because people can tell anyway and it might feel slightly otherwise Devil's advocate: why does it matter (apart from "it feels wrong")? As long as the conclusions are sound, why is it relevant whether AI helped with the writing of the report?

AI-generated content is rarely published with the intention of being informative. * Something being apparently AI-generated is a strong heuristic that something isn't worth reading.

We've been reading highly-informative articles with "bad English" for decades. It's okay and good to write in English without perfect mastery of the language. I'd rather read the source, rather than the output of a txt2txt model.

* edit -- I want to clarify, I don't mean to imply that the author has ill will or intent to misinform. Rather, I intend to describe the pitfalls of using an LLM to adapt ones text, inadvertently adding a very strong flavor of spam to something that is not spam.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by cyberpunk »

dotancohen wrote: post #88
neuroelectron wrote: post #49

VSCode is extremely unsafe and you should only use it in a managed, corporate environment where breaches aren't your problem. This goes with any fork, as well.

What should I be reading to know more about this? I am considering a move from Jetbrain's products to VS Code.

I tried this move once and lasted three days.

Opening IDEA after those three days was the same kind of feeling I imagine you’d get when you take off a too tight pair of shoes you’ve been trying to run a marathon in.

ymmv, of course, but for $dayjob I can’t even be arsed trying anything else at this point, it’s so ingrained I doubt it’ll be worth the effort switching.

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by godelski »

cluckindan wrote: post #93
nosrepa wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why use pihole? Most OSes have a hosts file you can edit if you're just blocking one domain.

Set up your router to offer DNS through pihole and everything in your network now has tracking and ads blocked, even the wifi dishwasher.

Even the dishwasher that has Wifi that you don't know has Wifi and will happily jump onto open networks or has a deal with xfinity

Re: Performance and telemetry analysis of Trae IDE, ByteDance's VSCode fork

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Post by 63stack »

dotancohen wrote: post #94
dmitrygr wrote: post #52

I remind you, again, that vi, gcc, as, ld, and make have no telemetry, launch few (if any) processes, do not need GB of RAM, and work well.

I am a die hard VIM user. VIM is a text editor, not an IDE. You can I many D tools into it's E, but it remains a text editor with disparate tools.

What is there in an IDE today, that is missing from (n)vim? With the advent of DAP and LSP servers, I can't find anything that I would use a "proper" IDE for.
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