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Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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Can someone explain to me how PG funded Reddit when it was more like a HN clone?

I might get a few details wrong; but HN certainly was inspired by reddit.

Reddit was originally written in Lisp. Paul Graham had actually written an article about how Lisp was his secret weapon when building his Yahoo-acquired Viacom. Reddit was one of the first YC companies so I assume their language choice was inspired by this.

Soon after launch reddit had performance issues and was rewritten in Python. This improved the site stability but angered one of reddit's original user base of Lisp fans. Around the same time Paul Graham started hyping a new Lisp dialect he was writting called arc [1]. It's what powers HN.

Arc stores the stack and a set of continuations for each possible client action in memory on the server. These are referenced on the client by a fnid. This is actually the source of the next-page errors you'll see here; continuations are purged in least recently used fashion so as HN outgrows its single server the lack of memory makes sessions expire more quickly.

I believe both HN and reddit (which had a second Python-based rewrite) are now open source. There is nothing stopping Paul Graham from using reddit's source code; but I believe the arc code is leaner. HN runs on a single piece of hardware to this day.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_(programming_language)

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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post #14

Can someone explain to me how PG funded Reddit when it was more like a HN clone?

I might get a few details wrong; but HN certainly was inspired by reddit. Reddit was originally written in Lisp. Paul Graham had actually written an article about how Lisp was his secret weapon when building his Yahoo-acquired Viacom. Reddit was one of the first YC companies so I assume their language choice was inspired by this. Soon after launch reddit had performance issues and was rewritten in Python. This improv…

Thanks for the details - am clear now :-)

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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"On Thursday, President Obama signed up for an “Ask Me Anything” (A.M.A. in geekspeak) session at Reddit, a vast social site that is a staple of digital life for the young and connected, but less well known among grown-ups."

How patronizing.

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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"If the leader of the free world stops by" - sorry, he's what?

This is a pretty common expression for the President of the US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World#.22Leader_of_the_Fre...

I don't think that phrase has had any meaning for at least 20 years.

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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post #14

Can someone explain to me how PG funded Reddit when it was more like a HN clone?

PG said in an interview that they first wanted to have a HN subreddit but back then reddit didn't yet have subreddits and it was taking too long for them to implement that capability so PG made HN on his own.

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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post #14

Can someone explain to me how PG funded Reddit when it was more like a HN clone?

I might get a few details wrong; but HN certainly was inspired by reddit. Reddit was originally written in Lisp. Paul Graham had actually written an article about how Lisp was his secret weapon when building his Yahoo-acquired Viacom. Reddit was one of the first YC companies so I assume their language choice was inspired by this. Soon after launch reddit had performance issues and was rewritten in Python. This improv…

I always wonder how HN works without cookies. Can you share some insights on that?

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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post #14

Can someone explain to me how PG funded Reddit when it was more like a HN clone?

PG said in an interview that they first wanted to have a HN subreddit but back then reddit didn't yet have subreddits and it was taking too long for them to implement that capability so PG made HN on his own.

That sounds like PG's comment here! http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3141132

PG talks a bit more about how Reddit inspired HN here: http://ycombinator.com/announcingnews.html

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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post #23

"On Thursday, President Obama signed up for an “Ask Me Anything” (A.M.A. in geekspeak) session at Reddit, a vast social site that is a staple of digital life for the young and connected, but less well known among grown-ups." How patronizing.

Indeed. Reminds me of when people say that IT work should be cheap because "you're just pushing some buttons." Gee, I sure am glad President Obama took some time to join us kiddies in playing with our computers!

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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post #23

"On Thursday, President Obama signed up for an “Ask Me Anything” (A.M.A. in geekspeak) session at Reddit, a vast social site that is a staple of digital life for the young and connected, but less well known among grown-ups." How patronizing.

Indeed. Reminds me of when people say that IT work should be cheap because "you're just pushing some buttons." Gee, I sure am glad President Obama took some time to join us kiddies in playing with our computers!

Pushing buttons does nothing, it's the order in which those buttons are pushed that requires intelligence, skill and experience.

Re: Left Alone by Its Owner, Reddit Soars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might get a few details wrong; but HN certainly was inspired by reddit. Reddit was originally written in Lisp. Paul Graham had actually written an article about how Lisp was his secret weapon when building his Yahoo-acquired Viacom. Reddit was one of the first YC companies so I assume their language choice was inspired by this. Soon after launch reddit had performance issues and was rewritten in Python. This improv…

I always wonder how HN works without cookies. Can you share some insights on that?

it DOES work with cookies. At this moment I have a cookie from ycombinator called "user".
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