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The future is not self-hosted

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Re: The future is not self-hosted

#251
This feels like one of those very big problems in theory that so far has never materialized and likely never will.

I can read the books and acquire the knowledge from my kindle. If Amazon removes it, I can just pirate it?

I get the theoretical argument but as a very pragmatic person it just seems like tilting against the windmill.

Re: The future is not self-hosted

#252

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Yes, exactly as I stated --- there are few guarantees in life. So use your best judgment and place your bets accordingly. Personally, I'm betting on those who are highly incentivized and have the resources and structure needed to sustain reliable service.

Who is more highly incentivized than oneself, to keep their valuable data and treasured memories safe and sustained?

No one. But unfortunately, more than just incentive is required to make it happen.

Re: The future is not self-hosted

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I personally prefer owning my content, physical books, and having local copies. But if I’m being honest, I think this claim that if you don’t own the book you don’t have the knowledge and society will turn into digital feudalism is hyperbole. Knowledge is proliferating faster than ever, becoming more accessible than ever, and it’s easier than ever before to get the info that you’re searching for, even in this streami…

I think when people say "digital feudalism", they usually mean that the spaces where we do things digitally are increasingly owned by private entities that operate them for their own benefit. It's an analogy which can't be expected to align perfectly with historical feudalism.

Why, technically very similar acts are known in history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_act

Re: The future is not self-hosted

#255
I think people are dismissing the possibility of universally accessible self-hosting too quickly. We really need to be ambitious as engineers and imagine a future where people have sovereignty over their own computing. In 1990, we wouldn't have accepted someone else taking custodianship of our personal documents, memories, books, music, and films, and yet it's normalized today. With the benefit of hindsight, we need to brutally simplify every single layer of the stack and optimize it for being usable by non-technical people.

Re: The future is not self-hosted

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I see this claim often but bypassing DRM is an inevitability to the point where it's commonly done within hours of a new release simply for the fun of doing it. And to quote Gabe Newell (founder and owner of Valve, the company that operates Steam): > "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product…

If you have 2 options, get the product for paying a market price, and get the product for free, I think 90%+ of all humans will get it for free. The only thing stopping them is friction and consequences. I’m not as optimistic as you, that the only reason people pirate is because it’s available in their geography (why not use a VPN and buy it then). Some people will pay for stuff, I never use pirated stuff, but I’m pr…

GP isn’t optimistic he literally gave real world concrete example of this working as he described for games.

You are just pessimistic.

Afaik more or less the same thing happened with spotify and music pirating

Re: The future is not self-hosted

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> Information is proliferating and is more accessible, but a huge amount of that information is lies and manipulation I'm not sure that really counts as knowledge. I don't think that's any different to any other period of time when communication was suddenly able to expand. Gutenberg's press didn't come with an automatic lie detector that meant the printed word could only contain true facts and nothing else. Instead,…

it has never been easier to poison the well of knowledge at the scale possible today. the internet enabled instantaneous dissemination whatever version of reality tickles your fancy. the effort required is also minimal. This has never been possible in the past.

The same was true of the printing press, though, at least in comparison to the communication of the previous era. It enabled lies and propaganda to be spread far quicker than ever before, and by people of every rank in society, with (comparatively) minimal effort. And yet, despite this, we think of Gutenberg's invention as one of the most important tools of the modern era for bringing about societal change and enabling people to speak the truth.

Is there something materially different here with the internet? Are we now entering an era of too much free speech? Is it now too easy for us to communicate with each other? And if so, what's the cutoff? What arbitrary barrier would we need to put in place to make the internet more like the printing press and safe to use again?

Re: The future is not self-hosted

#259
The actual solution is extremely simple in explanation, though really hard to pull off.

It's "skin in the game." Right now, cloud services fail horribly at much of what they promise or merely imply; safety, security, long term availability, etc.

And so, to make them not fail at this, they must be punished when they fail at this. The other side of this coin is probably "you have to pay them," but that's not so bad either.

Re: The future is not self-hosted

#260
One thing i know about the future is that it brings more powerful chips, available storage and more tech in general. Which is much needed to come up with consumer level self-hosting solution so that 'cloud is just someone esle's computer' becomes 'this cloud is just my computer'
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