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Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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post #121

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>app icons are just "advertisement" You wouldn't believe the volume of actual advertisements that show up as push notifications on my wife's phone

These are so infuriating they should be illegal. Especially when they come from apps you can't delete like your bannking app.

At least Apple has a rule against push spam, which they toe the line on but it's still a lot less bad than it could be.

Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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Don’t agree, but to each their own. The native app experience for every app noted in the article is better and smoother than the mobile web version, in my opinion. Lots of people hate Electron apps, which suggests to me that my preference for native apps isn’t unique. Web apps can ask for your location or microphone the same way native apps can. Just reject it, there’s nothing that says you have to accept on either p…

Isn't the mobile app of Reddit just using electron as well?

Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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I understand but it’s not always with bad intentions. In the Netherlands we have a system called DigiD to login into to most government websites like your taxes and city, etc. When I contracted for the city of Amsterdam I learned they’ve been pushing hard for the DigiD app to two factor authenticate instead of text message, because of contracts Digid charges a lot per text message validation and none for app.

This could have just been TOTP.

TOTP standard made sense, but mainstream implementation was user-hostile at the start with stuff like Google Authenticator not letting you copy keys, then afterwards still making it unclear under what circumstances they're backed up. Nowadays it's user-unfriendly at best.

I like how we went full-circle to Passkeys which are basically a "remember me FOREVER" button, implemented kinda like SSH keys. Should call it that too, and also ditch the like 4 prompts it gives you first.

Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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I cannot agree more and this has always been a pet peeve of mine.

Most native apps are some half gig large where even the heaviest website is a few mb. They dont let you highlight text and have other bizarre design choices. Even worse, they request importing contacts list which isnt even an option on the web.

Native apps could be butter but more often than not they are like margarine. Smooth, oily, and not good for you.

Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are so infuriating they should be illegal. Especially when they come from apps you can't delete like your bannking app.

At least Apple has a rule against push spam, which they toe the line on but it's still a lot less bad than it could be.

Hasn’t seemed to work…

Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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post #7

Don’t agree, but to each their own. The native app experience for every app noted in the article is better and smoother than the mobile web version, in my opinion. Lots of people hate Electron apps, which suggests to me that my preference for native apps isn’t unique. Web apps can ask for your location or microphone the same way native apps can. Just reject it, there’s nothing that says you have to accept on either p…

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Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are so infuriating they should be illegal. Especially when they come from apps you can't delete like your bannking app.

At least Apple has a rule against push spam, which they toe the line on but it's still a lot less bad than it could be.

Does it work the way CAN-SPAM is supposed to work (marketing can be unsubscribed from with rules about what constitutes "transactional" messages)?

Re: Do not download the app, use the website

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post #48

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Given how much it seems Apple detests PWAs, I don't ever see this happening. One can dream.

I feel like Apple is some lazy target for people to point to why PWAs have little uptake. Android has long had PWA support. Almost no one uses it at all. In fact iOS users have long had significantly high web browser usage than their Android compatriots. "It's because iOS doesn't support it...somehow. Despite entirely separate bases that could be served in entirely different ways, it's actually Apple's fault" A coupl…

>Android has long had PWA support. Almost no one uses it at all.

Yes. Because if you're making a mobile app you want to target the two major platforms. If IOS's PWA's suck, you're not going to try and make a PWA for android. So it's a negative feedback loop.

>Despite entirely separate bases that could be served in entirely different ways,

differnt ways costs money. So often it isn't done. They pick a framework that launches to all targets and deviate as little as possible. We're long past the days of having two dedicated teams trying to appeal to android users vs ios users. They are all simply "users".

>A couple of years ago Apple pretty much fully supported PWAs, including push notifications.

They pretended to while changing a bunch of develop terms to make it hard to actually use the PWA's. They "fully supported" PWAs the same way they "complied" with the DMA.

Besides, adoption takes a few years. You can't make a half-hearted update and expect changes overnight.it takes a few years to really see the results.

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