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The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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Groklaw links to a BBC interview with the jury foreman. > we as jurors were sworn to abide by the rules and the stipulations in law as they exist today, at the time we made the decision. Can't jurors just ignore laws that they feel are unjust?

I don't think jury nullification applies except for in criminal trials and only where the jury finds in favor of the defendant. You can't have juries running around convicting innocent people just because they don't like the law (or the defendant).

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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> These Four Horsemen of the Android Apocalypse are patents for what Apple claims are “key” product features -- “Slide to Unlock,” “Text Correction,” “Unified Search,” and “Special Text Detection. Wasn't "Slide to Unlock" invalidated in the process against HTC?

The HTC case was in the UK:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18709232

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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Does anyone see groklaw as a credible source any more? They used to have good reporting, but all I've seen since the Apple v Samsung verdict is spittle-flecked ranting.

Groklaw has proven pretty reliable in prior cases. Se's never truly impartial, but almost always quite close to the truth. And I can understand her, this really is an ugly set of cases.

[EDIT: Fixed gender pronoun.]

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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post #6

Some companies will have to pay a slightly higher per device royalty than they had wanted to and/or remove/modify some functionality. It's the Apocalypse! It's Thermonuclear War!

Requiring royalties for open source, independently developed software is Wrong. An attack on Android is an affront to all independent software developers. Also, Apple has said they are not interested in licensing.

"independently developed"

This is a new claim and not one that will find many takers imho.

"Apple has said they are not interested in licensing"

This is far from the truth. They certainly offered licensing to Samsung. $30/device might sound like a lot but that was a starting point in a negotiation.

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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Does anyone see groklaw as a credible source any more? They used to have good reporting, but all I've seen since the Apple v Samsung verdict is spittle-flecked ranting.

Groklaw has proven pretty reliable in prior cases. Se's never truly impartial, but almost always quite close to the truth. And I can understand her, this really is an ugly set of cases. [EDIT: Fixed gender pronoun.]

It's actually a her not a him that covered the Apple v Samsung case on Groklaw. PJ stands for Pamela Jones.

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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Does anyone see groklaw as a credible source any more? They used to have good reporting, but all I've seen since the Apple v Samsung verdict is spittle-flecked ranting.

Groklaw has proven pretty reliable in prior cases. Se's never truly impartial, but almost always quite close to the truth. And I can understand her, this really is an ugly set of cases. [EDIT: Fixed gender pronoun.]

PJ is a she. Groklaw is often a reference to the whole community though.

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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Does anyone see groklaw as a credible source any more? They used to have good reporting, but all I've seen since the Apple v Samsung verdict is spittle-flecked ranting.

Groklaw's approach worked well in SCO v IBM because SCO was a fraud so the story was entirely one sided. Unfortunately not all cases lend themselves to the open and shut "us vs them" mentality. Basically they've become the MSNBC to Florian's Fox News. Which is to say more sympathetic (Florian is a paid shill after all, a revelation we have Groklaw to thank for) but still not what I want from a legal tech news blog.

That analogy is not perfect, I do read and find value in both but the bias can be horribly grating and would love to find a reliable substitute.

Speaking of which The Verge's coverage has been excellent although there's a lot of forced false equivalence and it's pitched to a slightly lower information audience (I guess this make them CNN in my bad analogy?).

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Groklaw has proven pretty reliable in prior cases. Se's never truly impartial, but almost always quite close to the truth. And I can understand her, this really is an ugly set of cases. [EDIT: Fixed gender pronoun.]

PJ is a she. Groklaw is often a reference to the whole community though.

PJ hid her identity for a long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groklaw#Media_controversy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Jones#PJ

Re: The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android

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And didn't Google devise a workaround for Unified Search in a week or so?

I was under the impression that the patch removed universal search altogether.

That was a temporary stopgap to circumvent the injunction on sales until they came up with a permanent solution.
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