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When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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> This meant toting hundreds of pounds of equipment — including volatile chemicals, a darkroom tent and fragile glass plates — to wherever they hoped to snap a scene. I am something of a "photography genealogist" for the family. My father's half-aunt lived to be 103, never had children, and left behind a suitcase stuffed with photos — going back to a tintype of her mother from the 1880's. I was lucky the suitcase was…

Please upload these photos to Commons, especially if you own the rights to them; photos taken in the US before 1930 can be shared even if they are not yours, too. These stories and associated artifacts are interesting and deserve to be shared, if you're comfortable with it.

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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> This meant toting hundreds of pounds of equipment — including volatile chemicals, a darkroom tent and fragile glass plates — to wherever they hoped to snap a scene. I am something of a "photography genealogist" for the family. My father's half-aunt lived to be 103, never had children, and left behind a suitcase stuffed with photos — going back to a tintype of her mother from the 1880's. I was lucky the suitcase was…

Please upload these photos to Commons, especially if you own the rights to them; photos taken in the US before 1930 can be shared even if they are not yours, too. These stories and associated artifacts are interesting and deserve to be shared, if you're comfortable with it.

More training material? Why not upload them under the most restrictive copyright possible?

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please upload these photos to Commons, especially if you own the rights to them; photos taken in the US before 1930 can be shared even if they are not yours, too. These stories and associated artifacts are interesting and deserve to be shared, if you're comfortable with it.

More training material? Why not upload them under the most restrictive copyright possible?

Because Commons won't allow you to. Hilarious anyone thinks a license wards away scrapers, too.

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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> This meant toting hundreds of pounds of equipment — including volatile chemicals, a darkroom tent and fragile glass plates — to wherever they hoped to snap a scene. I am something of a "photography genealogist" for the family. My father's half-aunt lived to be 103, never had children, and left behind a suitcase stuffed with photos — going back to a tintype of her mother from the 1880's. I was lucky the suitcase was…

Please upload these photos to Commons, especially if you own the rights to them; photos taken in the US before 1930 can be shared even if they are not yours, too. These stories and associated artifacts are interesting and deserve to be shared, if you're comfortable with it.

I've posted already to ancestry.com, findagrave.com, etc. (But I am inclined to do up a blog post about it so I can talk about it and embed the photos.)

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please upload these photos to Commons, especially if you own the rights to them; photos taken in the US before 1930 can be shared even if they are not yours, too. These stories and associated artifacts are interesting and deserve to be shared, if you're comfortable with it.

More training material? Why not upload them under the most restrictive copyright possible?

I haven't yet switched over to the view that training material is bad. I'm neutral at this point.

Instead I would rather it be accessible to other relatives that may not be aware of the photos (or are yet to be born).

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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> This meant toting hundreds of pounds of equipment — including volatile chemicals, a darkroom tent and fragile glass plates — to wherever they hoped to snap a scene. I am something of a "photography genealogist" for the family. My father's half-aunt lived to be 103, never had children, and left behind a suitcase stuffed with photos — going back to a tintype of her mother from the 1880's. I was lucky the suitcase was…

> So sad that we traded fast lenses and film for color. I am not sure the quality ever quite caught up again to the better B&W until we get to modern digital.

Can you explain why color film would be a tradeoff against fast lenses? Can't you use the exact same lens with color or B&W? Or what you mean by "traded film for color"? After all, color film existed decades before digital.

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More training material? Why not upload them under the most restrictive copyright possible?

Because Commons won't allow you to. Hilarious anyone thinks a license wards away scrapers, too.

You can obviously upload them to some other place. You mentioned Commons, I did not.

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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> This meant toting hundreds of pounds of equipment — including volatile chemicals, a darkroom tent and fragile glass plates — to wherever they hoped to snap a scene. I am something of a "photography genealogist" for the family. My father's half-aunt lived to be 103, never had children, and left behind a suitcase stuffed with photos — going back to a tintype of her mother from the 1880's. I was lucky the suitcase was…

> Suddenly in the 1950's square color photos appear in the collection and the quality is actually some of the worst of all the family photos.

Could part of the problem be that color photos, especially early ones, did not age as well as B&W?

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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Recently, I visited the Pennsylvania Railroad Museum and was fascinated to learn that when steel railcars were first introduced—despite being far safer than their wooden predecessors, which could easily be crushed—many people feared they might attract lightning. It's such a good analogue to our movement into AI reality.

Re: When photography was born, fascination, obsession, and danger followed

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The discourse around photography and art reminds me exactly of the discourse around AI and art too: https://medium.com/@aaronhertzmann/how-photography-became-an... In some cases pieces I've read on AI and art contain phrases or paragraphs that are almost word for word identical to photography and art discourse. There were moral panics around photography too, especially its obvious use in pornography. There was of cou…

A counterpoint: photography enabled integrity and authenticity of images, which fueled journalistic credibility, in general becoming one part in fostering a high-trust society. AI image generation leads to these advances being slowly eradicated as generated images increasingly cannot be differentiated from unfabricated evidence. In this light, photography was socially progressive, while AI generation of photorealistic images could be seen as regressive.
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