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Possible I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do, but ollama works well for me for local inference with qwen on my Macbook Pro (32GB).
Yup, also using Ollama and on a Macbook Pro. Ollama is #1
Cerebras launches Qwen3-235B, achieving 1.5k tokens per second
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Re: Cerebras launches Qwen3-235B, achieving 1.5k tokens per second
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Our chips don't cost $3M. I'm not sure where you got that number but its wildly incorrect.
Are you the CEO of Cerebras? (Guessing from the handle)
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you the CEO of Cerebras? (Guessing from the handle)
I wonder why he (Andrew Feldman) didn't retort to the SRAM vs HBM memory incorrect assumption made by the OP comment; maybe he was so busy that he couldn't even cite the sibling comment? That's a bigger wrong assumption than being off by maybe 30-50% at most on Cerebras's single server price (it definitely doesn't cost less than $1.5-2M).
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup, also using Ollama and on a Macbook Pro. Ollama is #1
But isn't ollama only local chat? Or I am missing something? I'd like to setup it as a server for my usages on another laptop (use it as my local AI hub) and would love to integrate it with some IDE using MCP
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There is no reason to run models for inference at static fp16, modern quantisation formats dynamically assign precision to the layers that need them, an average of 6bpw is practical imperceptible from full precision, 8bpw if you really want to squeeze every tiny last drop out of it (although it's unlikely it will be detectable). That is a huge memory saving.
> dynamically assign precision to the layers that need them Well now I'm curious; how is a layer judged on its relative need for precision? I guess I still have a lot of learning to do w.r.t. how quantization is done. I was under the impression it was done once, statically, and produced a new giant GGUF blob or whatever format your weights are in. Does that assumption still hold true for the approach you're describin…
Re: Cerebras launches Qwen3-235B, achieving 1.5k tokens per second
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no reason to run models for inference at static fp16, modern quantisation formats dynamically assign precision to the layers that need them, an average of 6bpw is practical imperceptible from full precision, 8bpw if you really want to squeeze every tiny last drop out of it (although it's unlikely it will be detectable). That is a huge memory saving.
What quantization formats are these? All the OSS ones from GGML apply a uniform quantization
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Qwen models are, anecdotally, probably some of the best open weight models, particularly the MoE models. They are also, anecdotally, super scary censored. Asking it if anything "interesting has happened in Tianamen Square?" And then refining with "any notable protests?" And finally "maybe something to do with a tank"... All you get is vague allusions to the square being a beautiful place with a rich history.
Do you think it's done so carefully that you suspect that they have perhaps even removed texts mentioning the Tiananmen square massacre from the training set?
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you the CEO of Cerebras? (Guessing from the handle)
I wonder why he (Andrew Feldman) didn't retort to the SRAM vs HBM memory incorrect assumption made by the OP comment; maybe he was so busy that he couldn't even cite the sibling comment? That's a bigger wrong assumption than being off by maybe 30-50% at most on Cerebras's single server price (it definitely doesn't cost less than $1.5-2M).
Re: Cerebras launches Qwen3-235B, achieving 1.5k tokens per second
#159If this is the full fp16 quant, you'd need 2TB of memory to use with the full 131k context. With 44GB of SRAM per Cerebras chip, you'd need 45 chips chained together. $3m per chip. $135m total to run this. For comparison, you can buy a DGX B200 with 8x B200 Blackwell chips and 1.4TB of memory for around $500k. Two systems would give you 2.8TB memory which is enough for this. So $1m vs $135m to run this model. It's no…
Our chips don't cost $3M. I'm not sure where you got that number but its wildly incorrect.
Re: Cerebras launches Qwen3-235B, achieving 1.5k tokens per second
#160So I installed litellm proxy, pointed it at the new Cerebras API with Qwen-235B and hooked up Aider to litellm. This is not as good as claude code yet but it's so much faster. I even tried using the leaked claude code prompt into Aider but it doesn't do what I expect. Still worth trying but I learned that claude code's prompt is very specific to claude. I think this is very promising however! Aider basically spat out…
Thanks for the report. Can this be hooked up to claude code via a proxy?