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Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by railsjedi »

I would pay (prepay) for this. OmniGraffle has been painfully slow to improve, and just doesn't seem to cater to web or app ui design. Unfortunately it's the best thing out there so far. Need something better.

Build this as a native app and charge $monthly. That way people can get started with it for cheap and if you keep making a good product, they'll keep paying you for it.

I really feel like the 1 time app charge model is severely broken for consumers. Omnigraffle gets my $200 bucks and all of a sudden there's nothing I can do to influence them anymore as a customer. The product stays pretty much the same for 4 years, as they move on to find the next pot of gold app to build.

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by ilaksh »

eyevariety wrote: post #60
ilaksh wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been building web pages and web applications for many years. What optimizations do you think that software can't do that justifies hand coding CSS and HTML? Probably the first one is related to autosizing layouts.. but guess what, graphical editors CAN do that. Regardless, the majority of web pages today STILL are fixed width. There are plenty of tools and platforms that demonstrate the concept of graphical UI a…

Not saying that it goes back to semantic classes or anything like that, but if aligning alt tags, creating hierarchy with headings, being smart about the order of the code vs the order it appears- all those things are going to require 'coding'in a UI that is just as work intensive as coding them in the traditional sense.

You really think the hierarchy of the headings matters to Google?

I doubt that the order of the text matters either, but if it did you could create a tool that would order the output.

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by slantyyz »

wittjeff wrote: post #38
slantyyz wrote: post #7

The Flyout Tool is pretty novel. It's one UI quirk that bugs me in a lot of apps that support layering.

I was thinking the same thing re the coolness of it, but I don't have enough experience to say anything about novelty. If it is novel, OP's one-year patent clock starts today for the U.S., and the opportunity to patent in the rest of the world is now lost. It wouldn't surprise me if selling that feature to Adobe, Microsoft, or others could pay off more than the proposed (quite cool) app.

I suspect that this feature's "pre-announcement" will probably result in "copies" of this feature showing up in other apps, possibly before Enterface itself even reaches general release (assuming it's even in dev).

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by eyevariety »

ilaksh wrote: post #62
eyevariety wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying that it goes back to semantic classes or anything like that, but if aligning alt tags, creating hierarchy with headings, being smart about the order of the code vs the order it appears- all those things are going to require 'coding'in a UI that is just as work intensive as coding them in the traditional sense.

You really think the hierarchy of the headings matters to Google? I doubt that the order of the text matters either, but if it did you could create a tool that would order the output.

I know from years of optimization and measurement. Everything matters. Google/ Matt Cutts like to state otherwise, but SERPs prove otherwise.

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by wittjeff »

slantyyz wrote: post #63
wittjeff wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking the same thing re the coolness of it, but I don't have enough experience to say anything about novelty. If it is novel, OP's one-year patent clock starts today for the U.S., and the opportunity to patent in the rest of the world is now lost. It wouldn't surprise me if selling that feature to Adobe, Microsoft, or others could pay off more than the proposed (quite cool) app.

I suspect that this feature's "pre-announcement" will probably result in "copies" of this feature showing up in other apps, possibly before Enterface itself even reaches general release (assuming it's even in dev).

Yes I would expect this too. OP should file a provisional U.S. patent application listing every clever derivation they can think of, tomorrow.

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by firefoxman1 »

potatolicious wrote: post #34

This is awesome. If I can suggest something - it'd be amazing to export some kind of layer-based file format (PSD, really, though that tends to be hard). Your concept looks great for wireframing at a very refined level, but inevitably UI designers will want to go deeper with all the fanciness Photoshop provides. It'd be incredibly powerful for them to pull in a PSD where all the layers are already in place and ready…

I agree, this is really sweet. Is there some sort of CSS2 option that is heavier on the images for things like shadows and gradients, and a CSS3 mode which exports as much in the stylesheet as possible?

Also, an "export sprites" option would be amazing. It would spit out the image file and corresponding stylesheet?

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by voltagex_ »

wittjeff wrote: post #66
slantyyz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that this feature's "pre-announcement" will probably result in "copies" of this feature showing up in other apps, possibly before Enterface itself even reaches general release (assuming it's even in dev).

Yes I would expect this too. OP should file a provisional U.S. patent application listing every clever derivation they can think of, tomorrow.

Why?

Re: Show HN: Enterface, a UI design app concept I'm designing

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Post by zaroth »

The one thing I really want to see is HD demos of the product in use to create truly amazing websites.

I think if you dial down the marketing drivel, and dial up the actual functionality, if it is impressive, people will start to notice and share it all by themselves.

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