I worked a physically active job from 2003-2015 and was still obese.
Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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> anyone who has done extensive 'athletic' physical activity knows that if you don't up your calorie intake that you will lose weight. Anyone who has done extensive athletic physical activity knows that you will up your calorie intake unless you take explicit and intentional effort not to.
This depends on what you consider "extensive". About 10 years ago I started taking 45 minute daily walks with no other changes in my diet or activities and the extra weight (about 15 lbs overweight) melted away. I made absolutely no effort to eat less and didn't get any hungrier.
One could say that your eating habits were borderline enough to maintain your current weight.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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> This is such a myth and I have no idea where it's coming from. For people that are merely trying to lose weight, it's effectively true. When you're out of shape, you won't have the strength or endurance to exercise long and hard enough to actually burn significant calories. For athletes that are running marathons or doing powerlifting, yes, it's certainly false. Massive bodybuilders that are already deadlifting hun…
My anecdata: - a year of busting my ass on the bike almost daily: -15kg - a year of restricting calories to ~1200/day and not doing much else: -40kg - 2 years of sitting in my apartment being afraid of COVID and drinking too much: +50kg Conclusion: booze is a really great way to put on a lot of weight quickly
This is why you should walk to the pub instead of drinking at home...
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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Powerlifting does not take as many calories as you'd think. In fact, lifting in general is surprisingly easy on the calorie requirement, so most powerlifters and bodybuilders incorporate cardio as part of their routine. You will burn a lot more calories by walking 10,000 steps a day for 1 month than you would doing an intense lifting session each day. The reason you're probably thinking as to why lifters eat a huge a…
You’re wrong about that, look up videos of strongmen and bodybuilder meals/eating routines. The 2 hour workouts at the top of these fields are very calorie intensive.
I have lifted for 30+ years and something very un-intuitive with powerlifting is the optimal weight class for a height is extremely high.
If you are 5'10" you are pound for pound stronger at 240 than at 198. 198 will be dominated by someone who is shorter otherwise.
You are also much stronger the more you weigh, period. Strongman are eating so much to keep their weight up, not because they are burning so many calories while working out.
Even the most intense prowler workout that will make an untrained person puke their guts out is easy to out eat.
It is easiest to see with a contest bodybuilding diet. Even a 250lb bodybuilder who is doing a ton of working out is basically eating nothing. The body is incredibly efficient at holding on to weight. If it wasn't, humans would have starved to death a long time ago.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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literally get on a tredmill, angle it, and walk for an hour or two
I don't wanna sound too daring, but going outside is also an option.
> I don't wanna sound too daring, but going outside is also an option.
Sure, but a treadmill is more comfortable when it's >30C outside.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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How many hours per day was he swimming?
A lot. But a possible amount.
The problem is comparing the average person to one of the greatest Olympic athletes is completely pointless because of genetics.
Shaq could easily dunk a basketball weighing 300lbs. You can't infer from that then that any person can weigh 300lbs and dunk a basketball.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
#357Run 10 km 4 times a week and you will loose weight. Try it or your money back!
>Run 10 km 4 times a week and you will loose weight. No. I ran 10km three times a week and didn't lose a pound. https://np.reddit.com/r/running/comments/1vq3k1/should_i_do_... > Every bit of my weight loss has always come from counting calories.
Thats why I’m saying you need to run four times ;-)
But jokes aside, not doing sports and only counting calories will make you loose muscles pretty fast. This will lower your baseline of calorie consumption of your body. So when you stop counting calories you will grow even more fat than before.
If you don’t loose weight from running then most probably you are increasing your calorie intake unconsciously. This overeating happens sometimes when people do sports.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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My anecdata: - a year of busting my ass on the bike almost daily: -15kg - a year of restricting calories to ~1200/day and not doing much else: -40kg - 2 years of sitting in my apartment being afraid of COVID and drinking too much: +50kg Conclusion: booze is a really great way to put on a lot of weight quickly
If you're drinking beer or wine it is certainly very calorie dense. You're looking at 208 kcal per pint of beer or 123 kcal for a 5oz pour of wine. A pound of fat takes about 3,500 excess calories, or 16 pints of beer. So if you drink 2 a day all else equal you could gain nearly 1 lb a week.
This is just pointless ceteris paribus because genetics are the biggest variable.
If someone has a predisposition to diabetes they can't drink alcohol and hold things ceteris paribus because of the way alcohol effects the liver and then effects insulin.
Insulin sensitivity gets worse, blood sugar is all over the place and then the person is on a rollover-coast of over consuming calories to try to stabilize blood sugar.
IMO your post is why almost all dieting advise is just complete oversimplified nonsense. Meaningless ceteris paribus linear combinations that mostly add up to a non-reality for a non-linear complex system. It is a way for people to pick and chose what they want to be true.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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> Incidentally, the terms "bulking" and "cutting" come from bodybuilders taking steroids. I know that non-chemically-enhanced people have started using these terms, but it's honestly foolish. When you're not cycling anabolic steroids against metabolic stimulants like Clenbuterol, it really doesn't apply. What. Even natural bodybuilders go through cut and bulk cycles. And plenty of enhanced bodybuilders don't use clen…
Even natural bodybuilders go through cut and bulk cycles. Yeah, the ones who are actually prepping for competition. They sacrifice some of their gains to get as lean as possibly solely for the purpose of showing in a competition. Anyone else engaging in "bulking" and "cutting" is just wasting their time. You have to be in a surplus to add muscle mass if you're no longer a novice lifter or significantly overweight. Th…
> Anyone else engaging in "bulking" and "cutting" is just wasting their time.
Why?
> This is why you eat a slight caloric surplus while hitting your macro goals.
As an unenhanced lifter you've not got the significant nutrient partitioning boosts that HGH/AAS/(and for some) insulin give you. If you want to maximize gains you're going to be in a big enough surplus that you're just not going to get basically exclusively muscle gains for every bit of weight you add. Eventually you're going to need to diet, even with a fairly small surplus. And what is a phased approach to eating in a surplus to gain muscle and eating in a deficit to lose fat but bulking and cutting?
I would agree that perma-bulking isn't a particularly good idea, and trying to bulk and cut with the same sort of caloric surpluses and deficits someone on gear is counter-productive for a natural lifter, but I don't see why or how you come to the conclusion that unenhanced lifters using the bulk/cut terms are dweebs or wrong in using the terminology. HN is the only place I've ever seen anyone claim that the only people who should be using bulk/cut phrasing are enhanced lifters.
Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds
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I don't wanna sound too daring, but going outside is also an option.
> I don't wanna sound too daring, but going outside is also an option. Sure, but a treadmill is more comfortable when it's >30C outside.
People downplay how important consistency is when trying to make changes to their lifestyle. Walking is good but whatever the exercise, a sustainable plan is best.
Same reason behind having a list when you go to the grocery store and sticking to it rather then buying whatever looks good then and there.