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Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by quesera »

darklajid wrote: post #10

That's the same company that bundles much needed java security updates with the opt-out option of installing a weird browser toolbar and setting the homepage to a crappy service, right? Seriously, I never cared about that company as long as it was just selling expensive (but supposedly feature rich?) software to the enterprise, but it seems the alternatives to Oracle's java and MySQL need some more support, market- a…

MySQL and Java don't affect me much personally, but I think the way they've handled Solaris is a real tragedy for the industry.

Larry is the new Bill. I blame Jonathan.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

quesera wrote: post #60
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's like me saying "LibreOffice, where are you?" and you saying "AbiWord".

Is yours an informed opinion? Postgres is an extremely high quality piece of software.

I think you misunderstood me. It wasn't a good analogy, though.

They were proposing an alternative when I want a fork of what I already use.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by taligent »

Sauce1971 wrote: post #34

I used to enjoy working with Oracle databases, but the horrible pricing and high need for dba maintenance was always discomforting. Switch for a while to MSSQL, but then the market for Windows apps disappeared. Have been using mySQL with very little sort of DB satisfaction. Now I don't know why anyone would not choose PostgreSQL for almost any project. Oracle is a bad apple, making money with methods aking to extorti…

>Now I don't know why anyone would not choose PostgreSQL for almost any project.

No offense but people who make statements like this clearly don't know much about the current state of databases. PostgreSQL is pretty bad in many areas compared to the newer databases e.g. ease of clustering and sharding, developer friendliness, JSON support, tool support etc.

It's great as a replacement for a typical RDBMS but if you're working on a new startup project I would see no reason to use it.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

#64

Post by taligent »

quesera wrote: post #61
darklajid wrote: post #10

That's the same company that bundles much needed java security updates with the opt-out option of installing a weird browser toolbar and setting the homepage to a crappy service, right? Seriously, I never cared about that company as long as it was just selling expensive (but supposedly feature rich?) software to the enterprise, but it seems the alternatives to Oracle's java and MySQL need some more support, market- a…

MySQL and Java don't affect me much personally, but I think the way they've handled Solaris is a real tragedy for the industry. Larry is the new Bill. I blame Jonathan.

What's happening to Solaris ?

It is still open and available for download at http://opensolaris.org. It just isn't being supported by Oracle anymore since they are focused on Oracle Linux.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by xradionut »

Sauce1971 wrote: post #34

I used to enjoy working with Oracle databases, but the horrible pricing and high need for dba maintenance was always discomforting. Switch for a while to MSSQL, but then the market for Windows apps disappeared. Have been using mySQL with very little sort of DB satisfaction. Now I don't know why anyone would not choose PostgreSQL for almost any project. Oracle is a bad apple, making money with methods aking to extorti…

MS SQL Server is mainly used by corporations for corporations, so there is a market and good money for apps and expertise in those circles if you have the expertise in the MS stack.

For OSS projects that require a RDBMS, PostgreSQL is a good choice. I instinctively choose it over MySQL years ago and have been pleased.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by quesera »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #62
quesera wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is yours an informed opinion? Postgres is an extremely high quality piece of software.

I think you misunderstood me. It wasn't a good analogy, though. They were proposing an alternative when I want a fork of what I already use.

Apologies, I did misunderstand.

I cut a bunch of apps (and their large databases) over from MySQL to Postgres several years ago. It was tedious, but I've never had cause to regret it in any way.

When MySQL became Oracle I was very relieved to not have to think about the implications.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

quesera wrote: post #66
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you misunderstood me. It wasn't a good analogy, though. They were proposing an alternative when I want a fork of what I already use.

Apologies, I did misunderstand. I cut a bunch of apps (and their large databases) over from MySQL to Postgres several years ago. It was tedious, but I've never had cause to regret it in any way. When MySQL became Oracle I was very relieved to not have to think about the implications.

Well, personally, my favourite database is SQLite.

I don't build large apps, although for many-read-few-write-type sites SQLite isn't so bad.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by quesera »

taligent wrote: post #64
quesera wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MySQL and Java don't affect me much personally, but I think the way they've handled Solaris is a real tragedy for the industry. Larry is the new Bill. I blame Jonathan.

What's happening to Solaris ? It is still open and available for download at http://opensolaris.org . It just isn't being supported by Oracle anymore since they are focused on Oracle Linux.

It isn't inventing the next DTraces and ZFSes.

FreeBSD is doing a great job of catching up with Solaris innovations. I love those guys! And maybe we can ride for a few more years on Sun's largesse. But who will push things forward?

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by protomyth »

skymt wrote: post #6
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #4

LibreSQL, where are you? :(

Isn't that what MariaDB is for?

An honest question, why support the people who caused this situation in the first place? It really seems like supporting other groups would be more appropriate.

Re: Oracle makes move to kill open source MySQL

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Post by quesera »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #67
quesera wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies, I did misunderstand. I cut a bunch of apps (and their large databases) over from MySQL to Postgres several years ago. It was tedious, but I've never had cause to regret it in any way. When MySQL became Oracle I was very relieved to not have to think about the implications.

Well, personally, my favourite database is SQLite. I don't build large apps, although for many-read-few-write-type sites SQLite isn't so bad.

SQLite is awesome too. I use it whenever I can.
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