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Is anything similar possible with Wayland?
I wish things were as easy as they were with X11. Being able to ssh into a box and “export DISPLAY=192.168.0.7:0.0” then start an app and have it show up locally is just magical.
Instead, you should "ssh -x" or "ssh -y" to pull the traffic over the ssh encrypted channel.
The -y option should be used with caution; read the docs.
I wish things were as easy as they were with X11. Being able to ssh into a box and “export DISPLAY=192.168.0.7:0.0” then start an app and have it show up locally is just magical.
Your X network traffic would be clear text over the network if you did it this way. Instead, you should "ssh -x" or "ssh -y" to pull the traffic over the ssh encrypted channel. The -y option should be used with caution; read the docs.
-x disables X11 forwarding.
I have been using mwm (MOTIF) since 1991. Exact same configuration. It’s the perfect wm in my opinion. I’ve tried every major wm since, and I just can’t quit it. I do everything on the commandline, so I don’t need anything more than mwm. Who’s with me? Anyone? Anyone?
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Your X network traffic would be clear text over the network if you did it this way. Instead, you should "ssh -x" or "ssh -y" to pull the traffic over the ssh encrypted channel. The -y option should be used with caution; read the docs.
It's capital -X and -Y -x disables X11 forwarding.
While this leaves a lot to be desired as a window manager, it illustrates one of my main gripes about the Wayland ecosystem: By effectively bundling the window manager and X server, it makes it much harder for more niche/experimental window managers to come about and stay alive. Even with things like wlroots, you have to invest a lot more work to get even the basics working that X11 will give you for free.
YAGN more experimental/niche window managers. Windows and macOS get by fine on one apiece, in fact their desktop story is better because their WM and toolkit is standardized. The developers of Wayland (who are identical to the developers of Xorg) aspire to more of a Windows/Mac-like ecosystem for Linux, in which standardization, performance, and support for modern graphics hardware without hacks or workarounds are pr…
Microsoft got the Start Button/taskbar bit right in 1998 with the addition of the quicklaunch bar, although they keep trying to screw it up. But their window management has been abysmal since the beginning. If you use a large monitor (so you don't need to maximize everything) it's really painful.
How dare this person take `mwm`!!! I have been using mwm (MOTIF) since 1991. Exact same configuration. It’s the perfect wm in my opinion. I’ve tried every major wm since, and I just can’t quit it. I do everything on the commandline, so I don’t need anything more than mwm. Who’s with me? Anyone? Anyone?
These days I use KDE 'cause I'm lazy and it has decent customization options. It won't quite do what FVWM would, but it's in the right ballpark for me.
I wish things were as easy as they were with X11. Being able to ssh into a box and “export DISPLAY=192.168.0.7:0.0” then start an app and have it show up locally is just magical.
Your X network traffic would be clear text over the network if you did it this way. Instead, you should "ssh -x" or "ssh -y" to pull the traffic over the ssh encrypted channel. The -y option should be used with caution; read the docs.
that's exactly what I want on my local home network
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your X network traffic would be clear text over the network if you did it this way. Instead, you should "ssh -x" or "ssh -y" to pull the traffic over the ssh encrypted channel. The -y option should be used with caution; read the docs.
> Your X network traffic would be clear text over the network if you did it this way. that's exactly what I want on my local home network