Curious as to what could cause a global outage like that. The system consists of birds in the air and individual ground stations. There's no big choke point that I'm aware of that could cause the whole shebang to go dark. Am I missing something here?
Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
if you could somehow put something into persistent storage on the satellites that causes it to crash every time it tries to start up before it gets to the point where it's able to update the software, then they'd be bricked. see also: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/02/radio-station-snafu-in-...
I don't know how Starlink's satellites are architected, but the spacecraft I am familiar with has several different boot images with automatic failover. For that system, you would have to replace/corrupt multiple of the actual boot images to brick the system completely.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's essentially impossible for anyone to disable the Starlink network by "taking out satellites" through physical means. There aren't enough anti satellite missiles in the world to make a dent, it would cost trillions to manufacture enough, and SpaceX can launch satellites faster than anyone could manufacture interceptors anyway. And Kessler syndrome is impossible at the altitudes Starlink uses. Cyberattack is the o…
>>There aren't enough anti satellite missiles in the world to make a dent, it would cost trillions to manufacture enough Few big nukes are enough to take out all satellites.
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#104So, if (just spitballing here) Russia were to have wanted to take out Starlink in order to handicap Ukrainian operations, and they didn't want to do something as visible as actually taking out the satellites, what would be the most likely way for them to have done it? And how would we be able to check if that's what happened? No idea if this is plausible at all, just raising the question for anyone who knows more abo…
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
BGP is the canonical way to take your entire global network offline within seconds. Glancing at BGP looking glasses, Starlink's prefixes seem to still be announced, but there could still be an accidental blackhole or routing loop within their AS, or something broken in one of their transit providers. No idea if that's what's going on, but routing protocols are one of a few effectively global control planes that can g…
If it were BGP/routing, you would think we'd be able to still get a signal and the modem would think it's healthy (although maybe not if the issue prevented us from obtaining our public IP), we just wouldn't be able to route to any dst. In the current case we don't have a signal (orange light on the modem)
Traceroute from "the internet" back to that IP reaches AS14593 just fine, and my endpoint doesn't get beyond the first hop of the local starlink router.
Whatever it is, it doesn't look like a peering problem
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#106Re: Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
BGP is the canonical way to take your entire global network offline within seconds. Glancing at BGP looking glasses, Starlink's prefixes seem to still be announced, but there could still be an accidental blackhole or routing loop within their AS, or something broken in one of their transit providers. No idea if that's what's going on, but routing protocols are one of a few effectively global control planes that can g…
If it were BGP/routing, you would think we'd be able to still get a signal and the modem would think it's healthy (although maybe not if the issue prevented us from obtaining our public IP), we just wouldn't be able to route to any dst. In the current case we don't have a signal (orange light on the modem)
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#108Russian Nuclear Sabotage In Space Could Blast U.S., SpaceX Satellites
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinholdenplatt/2025/07/23/rus...
Re: Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage
#109Curious as to what could cause a global outage like that. The system consists of birds in the air and individual ground stations. There's no big choke point that I'm aware of that could cause the whole shebang to go dark. Am I missing something here?
There is a non-zero probability that Musk personally tried to use Grok to make and roll out a software update.
[1] https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacexs-starlink-hit-by-major-out...