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A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places
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> Also, in the vein of this guy I think 21 is a bad idea Could you elaborate on that? I could speculate, but I'd love to know your reasons.
Not the parent, but weather resistant bus shelters take up a lot of space. So you're essentially trading sidewalk space for bus access.
Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places
#43Some additions: - No drug addicts - No homeless people - No drunks - If you throw your trash anywhere except the bin you get punished - If you shout into your phone you get punished - If you intentionally break or deface anything you get punished If your city is full of drug addicts and anti-social people not a single thing you are going to do about zoneing will make it more "walkable". This stuff is so completely de…
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I think we should take away people's right to live in suburbs. ;-)
Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places
#44Some additions: - No drug addicts - No homeless people - No drunks - If you throw your trash anywhere except the bin you get punished - If you shout into your phone you get punished - If you intentionally break or deface anything you get punished If your city is full of drug addicts and anti-social people not a single thing you are going to do about zoneing will make it more "walkable". This stuff is so completely de…
You're not wrong that such things make a city less walkable, but there's also a strong argument that just punishing people, instead of, you know, addressing the underlying problem doesn't solve the problem either. It just sets up a situation where people bounce from jail (due to the realities of living on the streets) to the homeless encampment (due to unpaid fines preventing them from earning any money). Like, the w…
> the whole reason the West Oakland homeless encampment has such an enormous garbage pile problem
I lived in West Oakland for several years during the first .com bubble. People with houses there often didn't sign up for garbage service (or if they had, they didn't pay). I had to put a damned padlock on my garbage can just so I didn't have my own garbage dumped out and replaced by the freeloaders living next to me. They eventually notched my garbage cans with a saw so I couldn't lock them anymore. By the time I moved it was dueling piles of garbage, and it wasn't like I was the only one with the problem.
I find online commenters consistently underestimate the level of antisocial behavior that accompanies much of the squalor we see, and the fact that many people simply have no interest in playing by the rules of society regardless of how many handouts you give them.
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#46These are all great, I love city life and would embrace every single item, but without addressing the dramatic decline in public safety in virtually all US cities, none of these will matter at all.
Interesting thing is that cars are never considered to be threat to public safety. People have simply accepted that cycling/walking is unsafe (because of cars), so parents have to drive their kids everywhere.
During the 70s in the Netherlands there were massive protests called 'Stop the Child murder', because cars were killing too many children on bicycles. This was actually a conservative protest, because people were used to safe streets and simply did not accept that cars started killing their children.
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Can you source that fact? I'm seeing both violent and property crime as statistically way down over the few decades.
I would love to live wherever you live so that I could even imagine that this was not obvious to anyone who goes out into public spaces.
To be clear, your response to the extremely reasonable request for a source of the wild claim that you made is "it's obvious"? Am I reading you correctly?
Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places
#48Some additions: - No drug addicts - No homeless people - No drunks - If you throw your trash anywhere except the bin you get punished - If you shout into your phone you get punished - If you intentionally break or deface anything you get punished If your city is full of drug addicts and anti-social people not a single thing you are going to do about zoneing will make it more "walkable". This stuff is so completely de…
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>Also who hurt you?
I do not own a car, I walk/bike/bus/train everywhere and almost every time it is a terrible experience.
I want to have a better city, but a city does not become "walkable" or "unwalkable" because of zoning. It becomes either because it is either a good place to be or a terrible place to be. The obvious drug dealing at train stations make it a bad place, the obnoxious people with a total disregard for others make it a bad place, the trash everywhere make it a bad place, etc.
If you do not make cities nice places to be nothing else matters. And if you do make them nice places, everything else will follow, since now people want to be there and will demand e.g. better zoning and infrastructure.
Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places
#49Some additions: - No drug addicts - No homeless people - No drunks - If you throw your trash anywhere except the bin you get punished - If you shout into your phone you get punished - If you intentionally break or deface anything you get punished If your city is full of drug addicts and anti-social people not a single thing you are going to do about zoneing will make it more "walkable". This stuff is so completely de…
You're not wrong that such things make a city less walkable, but there's also a strong argument that just punishing people, instead of, you know, addressing the underlying problem doesn't solve the problem either. It just sets up a situation where people bounce from jail (due to the realities of living on the streets) to the homeless encampment (due to unpaid fines preventing them from earning any money). Like, the w…
>You're not wrong that such things make a city less walkable, but there's also a strong argument that just punishing people, instead of, you know, addressing the underlying problem doesn't solve the problem either. It just sets up a situation where people bounce from jail (due to the realities of living on the streets) to the homeless encampment (due to unpaid fines preventing them from earning any money).
To be honest I do not care. If you want to have great urbanism the single most important thing you can do is create places, where people want to be. Those places have to be nice to look at, enjoyable to be in and need to feel very safe, especially at night. If you have that everything else will follow, people will want to be there and they will demand zoning and transit to make it easier to access.
>One of the core drivers of homelessness is the absence of affordable housing within efficient reach of public transit to get to where people work.
No. It is drugs and untreated mental illness. Have you ever been around homeless people? The idea of homeless people, as people who are priced out of housing is ridiculous.
Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places
#50Some additions: - No drug addicts - No homeless people - No drunks - If you throw your trash anywhere except the bin you get punished - If you shout into your phone you get punished - If you intentionally break or deface anything you get punished If your city is full of drug addicts and anti-social people not a single thing you are going to do about zoneing will make it more "walkable". This stuff is so completely de…
The US already has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country, and it's not even close (we're #5, slotting in right behind Turkmenistan). Your solution to society's ills seems to be more "punishment." Do you think the wrong people are in jail? Or is there something unique to American society makes us have more people deserving of imprisonment than almost any other country in the world?
I do not care. I also do not live in the US. I live in a country where child rape gets you probation, so I guess I want more people in prison.
On further thought, maybe I actually don't, but I do not think that is the discussion.