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A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #9

These are all great, I love city life and would embrace every single item, but without addressing the dramatic decline in public safety in virtually all US cities, none of these will matter at all.

What are you talking about? Crime rates have dramatically been reducing basically everywhere.

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #9

These are all great, I love city life and would embrace every single item, but without addressing the dramatic decline in public safety in virtually all US cities, none of these will matter at all.

Can you source that fact? I'm seeing both violent and property crime as statistically way down over the few decades.

I would love to live wherever you live so that I could even imagine that this was not obvious to anyone who goes out into public spaces.

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #21
post #9

These are all great, I love city life and would embrace every single item, but without addressing the dramatic decline in public safety in virtually all US cities, none of these will matter at all.

What are you talking about? Crime rates have dramatically been reducing basically everywhere.

Cool, enjoy your safe space, wherever it is.

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is some evidence/belief that increased foot traffic actually improves crime rates. I'm certainly not saying it's a magic bullet, but there's at least some hope that if these types of changes were introduced it would actually directly decrease crime. I don't have a source handy, but the concept is that the more eyes on the street the less willing people are to commit crimes. I think the exception is that some ki…

I completely agree with this, but I think it's more humane to use foot traffic as a way to solidify safe places and not as a way to bring crime down.

Can you expand on that a bit? I'm not sure I quite understand, but I'm interested to know how you're thinking about it.

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #9

These are all great, I love city life and would embrace every single item, but without addressing the dramatic decline in public safety in virtually all US cities, none of these will matter at all.

Can you source that fact? I'm seeing both violent and property crime as statistically way down over the few decades.

My anecdotal experience visiting LA and SF in 2022 was wild - homeless and mentally ill people yelling, being a public nuissance, defecating on the streets, multi-story tents on the same block as the Hollywood stars. It bewildered me that the same state that houses Apple and Google can’t afford to help these people. Whilst I am empathetic and understand that these people need help, I wouldn’t let an 8 year old roam these streets, whereas I was allowed to roam my town when I was 8. Maybe it has been even worse before, and I don’t agree that making the cities walkable before these people are no longer on the streets is somehow usess, I do think that it is a more pressing issue.

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #9

These are all great, I love city life and would embrace every single item, but without addressing the dramatic decline in public safety in virtually all US cities, none of these will matter at all.

There is some evidence/belief that increased foot traffic actually improves crime rates. I'm certainly not saying it's a magic bullet, but there's at least some hope that if these types of changes were introduced it would actually directly decrease crime. I don't have a source handy, but the concept is that the more eyes on the street the less willing people are to commit crimes. I think the exception is that some ki…

Pickpocketing isn't really an issue in US cities like it is in Europe. I've heard of it happening a tiny bit in extremely busy tourist areas like Times Square in NYC, but it's not something you need to be vigilant about in everyday life.

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #23
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? Crime rates have dramatically been reducing basically everywhere.

Cool, enjoy your safe space, wherever it is.

Chicago, friend. :)

I'm reminded of being on an airplane sitting next to a cop who told me, "Did you know that Chicago is the murder capitol of the world?". It was fun to show her that Chicago isn't actually even in the top 10 of the US in terms of homicide.

Where do you get your news from that makes you think crime is going up?

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #15

My dream is for my section of my town to ban cars. It’s already heavy pedestrian but if the cars went away (and everyone had to walk or e-bike or mobility scooter in the zone) it would be a utopia. Sure there’d be some issues to address and frustrations but we’d figure it out. The net would be amazingly positive.

How would people be able to "express their personality" by removing their muffler or putting a two foot lift on their truck?

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is some evidence/belief that increased foot traffic actually improves crime rates. I'm certainly not saying it's a magic bullet, but there's at least some hope that if these types of changes were introduced it would actually directly decrease crime. I don't have a source handy, but the concept is that the more eyes on the street the less willing people are to commit crimes. I think the exception is that some ki…

Pickpocketing isn't really an issue in US cities like it is in Europe. I've heard of it happening a tiny bit in extremely busy tourist areas like Times Square in NYC, but it's not something you need to be vigilant about in everyday life.

Ha, yeah, I would agree with you there. I was trying to make sure to acknowledge a potential downside of increased foot traffic. Tend to think folks like to rebut comments when they're too one-sided, but then you came along with a totally legit rebuttal to me trying to "both sides" this!

Re: A list of changes to make it easier to build beautiful and walkable places

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Some additions: - No drug addicts - No homeless people - No drunks - If you throw your trash anywhere except the bin you get punished - If you shout into your phone you get punished - If you intentionally break or deface anything you get punished If your city is full of drug addicts and anti-social people not a single thing you are going to do about zoneing will make it more "walkable". This stuff is so completely de…

The US already has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country, and it's not even close (we're #5, slotting in right behind Turkmenistan). Your solution to society's ills seems to be more "punishment." Do you think the wrong people are in jail? Or is there something unique to American society makes us have more people deserving of imprisonment than almost any other country in the world?
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