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Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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> "So if we burn more of our energy every day on physical activity, on exercise, after a while our bodies will adjust and spend less energy on the other tasks that we sort of don't notice going on in the background," Pontzer says.

I also think this is true related to food. Your body adjusts its metabolism based on the amount of food you eat as long as it's not chronic. That's why you can have competitive eaters that can eat a weeks worth of food and not be overweight. Spikiness and variability are probably good for you. Its funny that the Bryan Johnson types who closely control every calorie in their body have such a bad reaction to any variability. I don't know if its him, but I heard someone not be able to sleep and their levels got all messed up from one sweet. And their conclusion was sweets are so bad for you, rather than you're building your body to be too fragile to shocks.

The interesting thing is when this breaks down. Obviously if you eat a weeks worth of food every day for a sustained period of time, you will start to gain weight. Or if you run 12 miles every day, you will be in such a deficit that it won't be possible to lower your metabolism enough. Outside of the extremes, I think it's a cliff, where you have to have some kind of shock for some period of time for your body to react.

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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> "So if we burn more of our energy every day on physical activity, on exercise, after a while our bodies will adjust and spend less energy on the other tasks that we sort of don't notice going on in the background," Pontzer says. I also think this is true related to food. Your body adjusts its metabolism based on the amount of food you eat as long as it's not chronic. That's why you can have competitive eaters that…

Interesting - training for spikiness/variability is a positive view, e.g. embrace the lack of occasional sleep, it trains you to be more resilient.

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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The timing of when I eat changes, if I gain weight. Eating pizza after jogging? Fat on belly.

Eating as much pizza as I want, but going to bed after on empty stomach after running, or putting the running in the morning while doing about 12 to 16 hour slots of intermitted fasting? Hello, six-pack.

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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> "So if we burn more of our energy every day on physical activity, on exercise, after a while our bodies will adjust and spend less energy on the other tasks that we sort of don't notice going on in the background," Pontzer says. I also think this is true related to food. Your body adjusts its metabolism based on the amount of food you eat as long as it's not chronic. That's why you can have competitive eaters that…

Interesting - training for spikiness/variability is a positive view, e.g. embrace the lack of occasional sleep, it trains you to be more resilient.

This is built into a lot of religions and cultural practices with fasting or restrictions. Spikiness is lindy

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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> "So if we burn more of our energy every day on physical activity, on exercise, after a while our bodies will adjust and spend less energy on the other tasks that we sort of don't notice going on in the background," Pontzer says. I also think this is true related to food. Your body adjusts its metabolism based on the amount of food you eat as long as it's not chronic. That's why you can have competitive eaters that…

> That's why you can have competitive eaters that can eat a weeks worth of food and not be overweight.

Nope, they do gain weight, or avoid gaining weight by counting calories [0]

[0] https://youtu.be/SVS0ioOdfuE?t=225

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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This is true to an extent and I'm very fond of the saying, but beyond a certain point you can indeed outrun a bad diet.

I used to spend ~4 hours a day training martial arts (kickboxing, BJJ, etc) during which time I could eat almost anything I wanted without gaining weight.

I'm sure if I had downed a cheesecake a day it would've been bad for me, but I was able to get away with a level of excess back then that I am unable to today.

So you can indeed outrun a bad diet, it just takes more running than most people want to do!

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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I’ve been thinking about writing a book on this topic: “No overweight person eats well”.

By very definition of a person is overweight, they got there by eating poorly, and are continuing to do so. They have eaten more energy than they use, this energy storage in fat.

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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The timing of when I eat changes, if I gain weight. Eating pizza after jogging? Fat on belly. Eating as much pizza as I want, but going to bed after on empty stomach after running, or putting the running in the morning while doing about 12 to 16 hour slots of intermitted fasting? Hello, six-pack.

That is a pretty interesting observation. I always thought it was solely on the amount of calories consumed vs burned. For example, you burn ~2500 through just living, if you eat a pizza that contains 3000 calories, no matter the time at which you eat it, will you not still gain fat?

Re: Diet, not lack of exercise, drives obesity, a new study finds

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The timing of when I eat changes, if I gain weight. Eating pizza after jogging? Fat on belly. Eating as much pizza as I want, but going to bed after on empty stomach after running, or putting the running in the morning while doing about 12 to 16 hour slots of intermitted fasting? Hello, six-pack.

Can we all please acknowledge that intermittent fasting is just a form of calories restriction? If you ate a pizza after jogging, but that was all you ate all day, your results would probably be different as well.
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