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AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Fun. I have people asking ChatGPT support question about my SaaS app, getting made up answers, and then cancelling because we can’t do something that we can. Can’t make this crap up. How do I teach Chat GPT every feature of a random SaaS app?

Write documentation and don't block crawlers.

> … don't block crawlers.

this rhymes a lot with gangsterism.

if you don’t pay our protection fee it would be a shame if your building caught on fire.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#153
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I subscribe to Kagi. It's been worth it to have no ads and the ability to uprank/downrank sites. And there's no AI garbage sitting in the top of the engine.

It’s useless. Worse than Google and no AI summary.

If you append a ? to your search it will prompt an AI query. And you can uprank/downrank results so I'm not sure in what universe it could be worse.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#154
In a sense this is similar to what Amazon has been doing in few countries. Find top selling products, get them cheaper from somewhere, rebrand them, rank them higher and sell them. They don't need to invest in market research like their competetors, they get all data from Amazon.com

At big tech scale, this is clearly anti-compete and piracy IMHO.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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This means searches are still happening, just being routed elsewhere? I noticed Google's new AI summary let's me click on a link in the summary and the links are posted to the right. Those clicks are available, might not be discovered yet, curious though if those show up anywhere as data. Google being able to create summaries off actual web search results will be an interesting take compared to other models trying to…

They have decades of data to map queries to pages. They also have access to crawl the pages in advance.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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It doesn't need to make up any.

Use a database if you want something that doesn't make things up, not a neural net.

I didn’t choose to use a neural net, search engines which are arguably critical and essential infrastructure rug-pulled.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#158
post #149

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Fun. I have people asking ChatGPT support question about my SaaS app, getting made up answers, and then cancelling because we can’t do something that we can. Can’t make this crap up. How do I teach Chat GPT every feature of a random SaaS app?

Could that be a case of defamation (chatgpt/whatever is damaging your reputation and causing monetary injury)?

Good luck litigating multi billion dollar companies

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#159

Of course slow, shitty web sites also cause a massive drop in clicks, as soon as an alternative to clicking emerges. It's just like on HN, if I see an interesting title and want to know what the article is about, I can wince and click the article link, but it's much faster and easier to click the HN comments link and infer the info I want from the comments. That difference is almost entirely from the crappy overdesig…

You might want to try out https://hackernews.betacat.io/

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

#160

Of course slow, shitty web sites also cause a massive drop in clicks, as soon as an alternative to clicking emerges. It's just like on HN, if I see an interesting title and want to know what the article is about, I can wince and click the article link, but it's much faster and easier to click the HN comments link and infer the info I want from the comments. That difference is almost entirely from the crappy overdesig…

I like good design as much as the next guy, but only when it does not impact information access. I use eww (emacs web wowser) and w3m sometimes and it's fascinating how much speed you get after stripping away the JS bloat.

js cult will never ever understand this. designers need the courage to work with html+css only.
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