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Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

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Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

#81

They should be weighing the final cuts rather than trying to quantify the amount of fluid on the plate. Otherwise they are simply failing to account for the amount of water that is evaporating away. And given how much my food steams while cooling, its not a trivial amount.

Chris does that in the video that is linked in the article, iirc.

Fun fact, Chris's co-author is Nathan Myhrvold.

Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

#82

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Not in the context of what this article is talking about. Not for pork chops. Not for ribeyes.

I think there are plenty of dishes that have pre sliced pork chops or rib eyes. The exception, sure. But it would not be hard to find even one example where this is not a rule. Your position is too brittle to take seriously.

Your comment is like saying 2+2 isn't 4 because it's not true in base 3.

The context of the article is obvious. It's about things like steaks and chops served in an American/European style.

Saying that they can technically be served sliced is to miss the point entirely. This isn't about stir-fry or salads.

Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

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I get what you're saying but I don't just mean that it's unsporting or defeats the purpose of the conversation, but rather that it suggests the outcomes are judged on a rubric that doesn't capture what makes extremely good BBQ good, but rather basic textural and visual things. Like, Green Street in Chicago is, IIRC, combi-cooked before it's smoked; it's also just OK.

I think we probably disagree on the impact of the sous vide preparation then. Green street is just ok for lots of reasons. I don’t think the sous vide is one of them.

Interesting. You've had sous vide BBQ where you were like, "this is as good as anything I've ever had"?

Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

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Note that a major point in this article is a pretty serious team of cooks (the Meathead folks are competition BBQ people) arguing against resting (but cooking in such a way that resting doesn't matter).

The resting hysteria in low and slow BBQ has gotten out of control. Many BBQ YouTubers now promote overnight resting, I've even seen some suggesting a two day rest. I'm glad to see some sanity returning.

the slower the cook, the better the beef optimal is 40°C for three weeks

Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

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my take away after wasting minutes of my life reading this is that you remove meat slightly sooner, rest for 5-6 minutes. that way juice is retained and internal temperature is on target when sliced.

The article makes it clear it's not about retaining juice.

It is about internal temp and managing carryover cooking.

Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

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post #84

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I think we probably disagree on the impact of the sous vide preparation then. Green street is just ok for lots of reasons. I don’t think the sous vide is one of them.

Interesting. You've had sous vide BBQ where you were like, "this is as good as anything I've ever had"?

Yes. By people who compete in bbq competitions. I’d also argue that most smoker designs are a matter of tradition and competition rules, not outcomes.

Re: Major rule about cooking meat turns out to be wrong

#90
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Pretty much all rib cooking competitions ban it.

I would be shocked if you could win a rib competition with sous vide ribs. I've done them a bunch of times. They're fine. They're not revelatory.

Then why the need to ban it?
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