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Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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I don't think I'd spend 150k for a car, I imagine it would create a certain sense of entitlement, but he does sound pretty annoying. It's just an order mess-up, but opening with stuff like: "Sent a formal complaint to Volvo Canada on January 16, requesting escalation to Managing Director Matt Girgis. Volvo Canada never confirmed this escalation." is a vibe.

He puts down a deposit, and waits almost a year, then experiences multiple delays. He seems to be experiencing multiple issues before he requests escalation. I don't think he opens with escalation request in a second email. His vibe seems to be of someone being ignored and just told to deal with it, and not willing to just accept something less than the original agreement. What would be a "better" vibe than requestin…

Ordering a custom car build from a factory is an experience. These sorts of delays are not uncommon, and there just isn't much anything the US or Canadian divisions can do about it most of the time.

That's for basically what amounts to supercars. I imagine a normal luxury car for the "mass market" like the EX90 is going to get even less attention.

For someone not used to it, I can see it being quite frustrating if their dealer is not totally up-front about what an allocation and build timeframe actually means.

A deposit is really not anything more than giving the dealer a bit of assurance that you will actually buy the car they burned their allocation slot on when it arrives - vs. them using it for a more standard common build that has a wider market for it. You are under no obligation to buy the hot pink on light blue custom color options you ordered should it arrive and you decide it looks horrible, for example.

It's a strange weird scene. I followed this on various car forums when I was planning on ordering a custom spec for my "dream car" a while back, but decided to just get something not quite optioned how I'd like it off the lot instead.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Volvo may not want to replace the car for the guy...but from a marketing standpoint, they truly picked the wrong hill. The site is very nice and pretty thorough. Makes me not want to get this car or any Volvo!

I love that you made a website to spread the word. Well done. Screw those guys. Hey Volvo, I’ll now never buy a Volvo. I always thought they were meant to be safe?

As far as I know the XC90/EX90 is the only SUV in its class to not have a fatality for anyone inside it at the time of an accident yet.

It’s a mass market luxury vehicle and the brand is still considered about the safest you can buy today.

It’s certainly not known for quality or reliability though. You buy them if your sole focus is on crash safety it seems.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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The Polestar 2/EX40 probably have the most mature software of that lineup. Not without issues (and certainly underpowered pre-‘24), but relatively stable by comparison. I don’t understand the logic of having each Polestar model running a unique software stack rather than progressively improving one system across all models - but must be a downstream impact of the fractured Geely badges.

Also the Volvo C40 (same platform). I've been driving it since January and other than the software being slow to start up when it goes into sleep mode, it's been stable. They did recently issue a software recall for the backup camera, so now when the backup camera crashes it goes into 360 camera mode instead of just a black screen. Overall I'm happy with this car though and would recommend it.

I haven't upgraded the firmware since 2.14.3 and it's been just fine. And probably fewer headaches than the owners that have been keeping up to date.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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I love that you made a website to spread the word. Well done. Screw those guys. Hey Volvo, I’ll now never buy a Volvo. I always thought they were meant to be safe?

Old Volvo is different than new Volvo. They went downhill when and after ford bought them. Also the new cars lack the charm of the older 240s, they're sorta just regular luxury cars now. Only recently sold my 850 because we're expecting a kid and wanted to mount the car seat correctly.

"correctly"?

Just use the seatbelt?

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Shameless plug. My experience with emergency lane keeping systems in my car and reporting it to my dealership: https://www.smetj.net/its-for-your-own-safety.html

It's difficult to trust anything that contains AI-generated content.

Could you elaborate please? Genuine question.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Old Volvo is different than new Volvo. They went downhill when and after ford bought them. Also the new cars lack the charm of the older 240s, they're sorta just regular luxury cars now. Only recently sold my 850 because we're expecting a kid and wanted to mount the car seat correctly.

"correctly"? Just use the seatbelt?

Yes, but it didn't have the lower or top rear anchors

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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To those downvoting my perfectly succinct answer to the question, I urge you to drive one of the newer Mercedes EVs. After my Tesla nightmare I moved on to Mercedes and it was night and day.

For those of us who do not want a car more expensive than our house, is Mercedes an option?

Did you look at the Volvo EX90 price range?

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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Mercedes

To those downvoting my perfectly succinct answer to the question, I urge you to drive one of the newer Mercedes EVs. After my Tesla nightmare I moved on to Mercedes and it was night and day.

The EVs (from any mainstream manufacturer that began with ICE products) are all fairly immature. My AMG E53 (cabriolet) is a hybrid, and I can tolerate that. It gives me an extra 100+HP when I punch it, but I wonder how long the battery is going to last. The electric power plant adds more than 500lbs to the car, but the car still performs very well. (The car is five years old now.) I like that I can drive over 400 miles on a tank of gas, and I like that I have no trouble finding a gas station, and that it takes only a few minutes to fill the tank.

I'm looking forward to the time when an EV can give me all of these things, and I'll eagerly purchase one when that happens.

I bought this car after owning a high-end BMW. I was looking for a car that performs well, but is very reliable.

It has been a great car, and it cost only 66% of the price that Vicken paid for his Volvo EX90.

Re: Unsafe and Unpredictable: My Volvo EX90 Experience

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The two main Achilles Heels of Hyundai/Kia are their ICE Engines and their EV ICCUs. Google reliability for both and proceed accordingly. They're good about replacing/fixing both issues when they come up, and normally have extended warranties, but they are critical components too and long lead times to fix. Outside of those issues, which don't happen on all vehicles, I view the brand as pretty rock solid. I'm impress…

Honorable mention - Hyundai Kona EV managed to build a reduction gear that blows around 100k km - just after warranty ends and they specifically recommend not changing the gear oil.

They managed to make an unreliable EV. Great kob, one of the few remaining gear in drivetrain and you managed to fuck that up. Maybe it's on purpose...
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