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The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by skybrian »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #494
kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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A big difference is that in 2022, an estimated five million Ukrainian refugees fled to other parts of Europe - which is more than twice as large as Gaza's entire population. Similarly, many Syrians fled the war there.

We could ask why there aren't more Palestinian refugees who fled to other countries? As far as I can tell, leaving Gaza is very difficult, and nobody really talks about making it easier.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by troyvit »

nemomarx wrote: post #71
netsharc wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why fantasize that the GOP isn't going to do a Putin/Erdogan/Suharto? Those countries have "democratic" elections and keep electing the same president, they must be hella great guys!

The optimistic case is that while they made noise about election fraud in 2020 no one was organized enough to try for a coup then, and it's not clear if they'll be able to get organized in time for 28

I feel like we'll understand more what they plan by seeing how they iterate towards it with the '26 midterms. The feds have already started requesting access to 2020's election data and access to the actual equipment. Is that because they want to protect democracy? [1] [2] [3]

So they are definitely getting more organized, and I personally feel that they're testing the waters to see how much they can get their hands on after the '26 midterms. If they are able to sow enough uncertainty about the '26 elections then they can build on that for 2028. If they go this direction, how many elections can they invalidate, especially if > 1/3 of the country believes 2020 was stolen?

[1] https://www.cpr.org/2025/06/13/federal-request-colorado-vote...

[2] https://stateline.org/2025/07/16/trumps-doj-wants-states-to-...

[3] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-doj-contacted-states-...

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by esseph »

glitchc wrote: post #174
esseph wrote: post #170

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Why is the US the only country in the world denying Israeli crimes in Gaza? That's how I know the UN no longer matters.

Because the rest of the world denies Palestinian crimes in Israel.

The State of Israel spent so long fighting monsters that it became one.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by regnull »

kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

From WSJ article:

"KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip—Thousands of hungry Palestinians amassed last Tuesday morning outside a barbed-wire fence surrounding the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation aid center here. The moment the gates cracked open, the crowd surged forward.

American security contractors tried to keep control, but scores of men pushed through barricades and snatched boxes of food awaiting distribution. Others sprinted in behind them. Men on speeding motorcycles raced past the pedestrians to grab whatever food they could. Gunshots rang out—it wasn’t clear from where. Within about 15 minutes, all the food was gone."

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/us-israel-gaza-aid-dea...

I know it's easy to judge being far away, but seriously, men on speeding motorcycles?

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Post by amdivia »

busterarm wrote: post #480
kennywinker wrote: post #314

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UNICEF’s mission is “providing humanitarian and developmental aid to children worldwide” Children in gaza are being intentionally starved by israel blocking food aid. At least 15 people including one infant have been starved to death in the past 24 hours. UNESCO’s mission is preservation of cultural heritage. Gaza and the west bank are being ethnically cleansed, and their arts and culture have already been physically…

Hamas, who run Gaza, want to "Globalize the Intifada" and bring violence to Jews worldwide. You speak about ethnic cleansing like if the roles were reversed we wouldn't be seeing the same thing. This is basically just criticizing Israel for having the means. Clearly both have the will. The two parties are locked into a death pact with each other.

Can you link authenticatic sources to back those claims up?

Do you even know what the intifada means? Or are you using foreign words to make it sound scary?

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Post by taylodl »

rafram wrote: post #441
cooper_ganglia wrote: post #387

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Sure, it was a Democrat president enforcing laws passed by a Democrat-controlled House and Senate in 1990 and 1994, under at least one Democrat president. There are no real "sides" when it comes to the U.S. and Israel. Every party bends the knee and kisses the wall. It’s one big club, and we’re not in it.

> It’s one big club, and we’re not in it. I’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here, but like it or not, most Americans do support Israel.

Most American evangelicals support Israel. I'm not so sure if the rest of the remaining Americans also support Israel.

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Post by mixmax »

breppp wrote: post #531
kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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a direct quote from the article you linked :

"The United Nations, the European Commission and major international aid organizations have said they have no evidence that Hamas has systematically stolen their aid, and the Israeli government has not provided proof.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by zipy124 »

glitchc wrote: post #174
esseph wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is the US the only country in the world denying Israeli crimes in Gaza? That's how I know the UN no longer matters.

Because the rest of the world denies Palestinian crimes in Israel.

That's a rather bold claim.

For instance: Both Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich have been sanctioned by the UK, Norway, Canada, New Zealand and Australia for “repeated incitements of violence against Palestinian civilians."

And yet all of these countries also condemn Hamas and their atrocities....

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Post by [deleted] »

eapressoandcats wrote: post #448
ngruhn wrote: post #414

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I’m not sure there is a government that can surrender at this point. Israel may very well have taken out any “leadership” that they view as being able to legitimately speak for a Palestinian state, if they ever thought there was one. There has always been a question of what Israel’s strategic goal is here because it doesn’t make any sense. An at least rational answer would be “regime change”, but no evidence has come…

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by laurent_du »

themgt wrote: post #512
dijit wrote: post #360

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Sweden and the US are “kinda cozy” (I would say at least, from an inside perspective on how Sweden seems to lean in to US interests including copyright enforcements and so forth). However Sweden was the first country to recognise Palestine. Is it possible that the pulling out of UNESCO is further in-line with Trumps “we want to focus on America” fluff, similar to the threats of pulling out of NATO and the actual pull…

If you don't believe Gaza's health ministry, how about Agence France-Presse? The journalists' association of the French wire service Agence France-Presse (AFP) warned on Monday that staff working with the agency in Gaza are at risk of starvation and that "without intervention, the last reporters in Gaza will die." In the statement, the SDJ said that AFP's journalists in Gaza have warned that they no longer have stren…

I fully believe that Gazans are starving, I just don't think it's Israel's fault. Hamas is stealing and withholding food, and other resources.
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